Xen Notices [Deleted]

[shabbirbhimani]

One of my client just purchased this resource and as he makes the notices dismissible, the link Dismiss just does not show up. He is using Xenforo 1.3.1.

 

[Martok]

One of my client just purchased this resource and as he makes the notices dismissible, the link Dismiss just does not show up. He is using Xenforo 1.3.1.

Is the Dismiss link missing in the notification that users see or is it the preview that it's missing? If it's the preview then that's expected, it doesn't display there.

 

[tsak76]

if u set up a notification for guests is it being indexed by search engines ? the problem with the default notice for guests is that is shown to all search results in google

 

[Chris D]

No it isn't indexed because it's loaded entirely in Javascript.

However, your assessment of that situation is incorrect.

Google indexes all content on the page, then shows you a snippet related to the search terms.

Here's a good example:

Search Google for this exact string:

site:xenmediagallery.com cookies

You will get loads of results with the default cookie notice, right?

That's because the search contains a word that is in the notice, so it's obviously going to think that particular area of the page is what you're searching for.

However, perform the search like this:

site:xenmediagallery.com cats

And not a single one of the search results contains any content from any of the notices.

 

[tsak76]

No it isn't indexed because it's loaded entirely in Javascript.

However, your assessment of that situation is incorrect.

Google indexes all content on the page, then shows you a snippet related to the search terms.

Here's a good example:

Search Google for this exact string:


You will get loads of results with the default cookie notice, right?

That's because the search contains a word that is in the notice, so it's obviously going to think that particular area of the page is what you're searching for.

However, perform the search like this:


And not a single one of the search results contains any content from any of the notices.

we talked about that here . the problem is that if i have a guest notice on and if i search my site:mysite.com it shows the guest notification in top of search results

 

[Chris D]

That's not how it works when I search for my site.

Bear in mind I also have a guest notice, plus the cookie notice:



But even so, searching for site:something.com is not an accurate search. If people wanted to see everything on your site, wouldn't they just go to your site?

In reality if someone was searching for specific content... let's do another example that isn't targeted directly at my site:



Third result, is my site, searching for something that I know exists there but would be a more natural, realistic search term.

Again, no mention of my default guest/cookie notice.

At risk of talking myself out of £20, you do not need this add-on because the problem as you perceive it isn't actually there.

 

[tsak76]

That's not how it works when I search for my site.

Bear in mind I also have a guest notice, plus the cookie notice:

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But even so, searching for site:something.com is not an accurate search. If people wanted to see everything on your site, wouldn't they just go to your site?

In reality if someone was searching for specific content... let's do another example that isn't targeted directly at my site:

View attachment 73398

Third result, is my site, searching for something that I know exists there but would be a more natural, realistic search term.

Again, no mention of my default guest/cookie notice.

At risk of talking myself out of £20, you do not need this add-on because the problem as you perceive it isn't actually there.

ok thanx, but i remember how vbseo was saying that the guest notice was putting to much irrelevant content an all pages

 

[Chris D]

If you're still concerned, then, ultimately, yes you could stop using notices all together (or at least only use them for people logged in) and instead use Notifications.

The HTML is loaded in to the DOM after the page has loaded, so it's actually not possible for Google to index any of the content within. Personally, I don't see it as a problem either way. But to answer your original question, no, Notifications will not appear in Google.

 

[OakleyForum]

So, I have been using notifications for a while, but never figured this out. I have a notification set to not be dismissible, yet when I navigate to the page in an incognito browser, it pop ups, and can be x'ed out. Is there any way to make it stay there all the time, and not let the user get rid of it?

 

[Chris D]

The X button is not a dismiss button. It is a close button. Dismissal is permanent. Closing is temporary. Dismissal can only be done by registered members where you have enabled the dismissal option for the notification. The ability to dismiss appears as text that reads "Dismiss Notification" at the bottom of the notification.

You can disable temporary dismissal in one of the options. Though on a per notification basis you can set the temporary closing period. It controls how long the notification stays closed for. It ranges from 0 which is the default which sets a session based cookie so the notification stays closed until the browser is closed and opened (or the user logs out and logs in again) to X number of days where the cookie is set for X days. The notification stays closed until the amount of time has passed or, again, until the user logs out and logs in.

 

[OakleyForum]

Oh Ok, thanks for the explanation

 

[Markos]

@Chris D if i want a notification like this, what i have to do to change the js file? Can i create something like this with Notifications addon?

 

[Chris D]

It's all just CSS really. You can give Notifications a CSS class when you're setting them up. Then you just need to write the CSS to make it appear how you want it.

I don't think it requires any JS code changes. But, regardless, code changes and advanced styling are beyond the scope of what I can support.

 

[OakleyForum]

Any responsive settings for this? Say to disable it on phone screens since they are too small, but enable it on ipads/tablets?

 

[Joe Link]

Great add-on @Chris D!

I understand the difference between closing a notification and dismissing it, but this will certainly confuse most of my members, so I want to remove the dismiss notification link. I also think this would clean up the look, more akin to how a modern website would look.

If a notification is set to dismissable, I want them to be able to click the close button and never see the notification again. If it's not set to dismissable, I want it to close for a time specified in the notification settings, then pop it up again as a reminder.

I think this would be possible through CSS and the settings you already have setup, am I right?

 

[Chris D]

It may be possible with CSS. It's not something I would recommend though over a very simple explanation of the difference. You only need to be told once and from then on it is simple.

 

[Joe Link]

The problem is the number of very simple 'this is how this works' type items that need to be conveyed to users is huge. Just for the basic functions of XenForo there are probably close to 50-100.

My industry has a very high number of non-tech savvy members, so anything I can do to simplify function, eliminate unnecessary clutter, or minimize confusion increases the user experience. Turns out this has actually been a strong web design trend for a long time now; hiding or removing more advanced features so members get the hang of the basics first. Twitter really dominates this ideology, and I believe it really is something to strive for

 

[Joe Link]

<edited: made a mistake>

 

[wickedstangs]

@Chris D can you send me the link to download the new version. I am back in the states and I tried the link you sent and its expired now.. I am still on 1.6.2
Thanks email used is sales@wickedstangsperformanceshop.com

 

[Chris D]

It expired because apparently you downloaded it 3 times already since it was released.

Anyway, have re-sent it.