First off YOU have a top 0.1% forum.Not the feedback I get back from users
Was page 140, now page 142.
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Forum software in 2017. The last software to have unthreaded threads. Keeping them for all the wrong reasons.
Maybe the success of Xenforo 1.0 allows them to rewrite things now while vB lies in tatters on the floor.
First off YOU have a top 0.1% forum.
What were the "big limitations" for extending xF1 ? Is there a top 3 issues that in retrospect were not ideal ?Well, I won't go as far as to detail what the future releases will contain, but it's important for everyone to remember the reasons we've stated for going down the route of an entirely new framework. We did mention it mostly in the context of add-on developers, but anything that benefits add-on developers also benefits us internally. Everything we've been working towards for the last 3 years or so is going to help us add more in the future.
I never said YOU had trouble with following this thread. You missed my point.I have had no problem following this thread.
And the same will apply to XF2. Even more so. There's always room for improvement. We've spoken plenty about some of the factors that took us in the direction of needing to make improvements. Here's just one of the comments we made on that:What were the "big limitations" for extending xF1 ? Is there a top 3 issues that in retrospect were not ideal ?
From a users point of view xF 1.x had less addon conflicts than vB 3/4. Less slowness issues as well. XF1's strength seemed to be it's extendability.
What are the goals of 2.0?
A major goal of 2.0 is one that is technical in nature: improve developer efficiency. While this might not be a new feature itself, it benefits all development going forward.
If you develop with XenForo 1.x for a while, you begin to see how much boiler plate and repetition there is. You begin to see that it's a pain to get access to data or even know if you have the necessary data available where you need it. And if you don't have that data, things just don't work as expected. Fixing this is a very important part of 2.0 and it involves fundamental changes to some of the lowest level code in XenForo, notably models and data writers.
Further, there are significant changes to code organization to improve code reuse (or reusability) and to help add-on developers apply additional changes to existing code more easily. There are plenty of examples of developers struggling to get new fields in existing forms to save properly due to the code organization of XenForo 1.x (specifically the controllers). This has now been re-approached to remove these problems in as many cases as possible.
Complex processes have been reorganized into distinct objects, improving readability and extendability, while also allowing the code to be used in more contexts than before.
So even though these may not be new features directly, these changes are necessary to ensure that speedy development can continue in the future and that add-on developers can make the changes they need with minimal interference from the core.
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First off YOU have a top 0.1% forum.
Great job.
Not up on some of the lingo - this is linear? Facebook is threaded? What forum platforms use threaded? Interested in seeing it in operation
Exactly... and as I said in an earlier post I have seen no "roadmap" released by IPS as they've been burnt before and learned. They announce the "new additions" as they are released/coded/implemented the same as the "Have You Seen" topics here.IPS have only been giving news on upcoming features for the new release since March. It's April.
Not in this thread, though.As i see it, i just think everybody who wants to add information on what they would like to see in Xenforo 2 should just do that
Plus they have their normal lives that they are living.
I imagine the life of a programmer as such, that not every wife will agree with that phrase.
you confused me with this statement. Can you explain?I imagine the life of a programmer as such, that not every wife will agree with that phrase.
That is where i shall go with any suggestions i may have in the future.If you have feedback regarding a change we've already made, it's best to post in the Feedback forum on the XF2 Demo.
I don't see this about how it looks.
I see the problem when it comes to functionality, Xenforo is getting outdated. For example, at this era of how things work on the direction software is taking... Things like live-updates, live-threads well, navigating through one thread without having to load in every page... are expectable and part of today's web.
What path does Xenforo seem to take? It stays locked to the old ways of how things work because that's how they have worked for decades. Same goes for vBulletin and IPB, no wild and fresh approaches to it.
The original point of xF was always that new, fresh look different from how vBulletin and IPB looked and worked, a simple, fast and more social approach to communities, people liked it, I think perhaps they lost the ideology that made xF attractive when it first appeared?
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