Its the internet... If it was peeking into your window, then that would be something to talk about... (Do not go the way of MRGTB)
Might want to take my own advices here...
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Might want to take my own advices here...
Its the internet... If it was peeking into your window, then that would be something to talk about... (Do not go the way of MRGTB)
Might want to take my own advices here...
You'll be on the news later today for posting that name.
A minor and off topic blip - lets not try and detract from what this thread is about.
IB legal must have sent him over in pursuit of more "facts", or they made him buy a license to look at the code.
"How ludicrous! They expect 'register_globals' to be turned off! This can't be our code!"
"How ludicrous! They expect 'register_globals' to be turned off! This can't be our code!"
My advice is to err on the side of being welcoming and not making anyone feel that their motives will be second-guessed without some evidence.
I tend to think the more vB folks who show up here as part of the community is a good thing. There is nothing to lose by being a good place to visit and there might be something to gain. If someone is not welcome or violating the TOS or the spirit of the site, the good mods here are well equipped to handle.
I tend to think the more vB folks who show up here as part of the community is a good thing. There is nothing to lose by being a good place to visit and there might be something to gain. If someone is not welcome or violating the TOS or the spirit of the site, the good mods here are well equipped to handle.
Why be hostile? xF has nothing to hide and don't forget, some of those vB staff are the same people we spoke to and worked with not too many moons ago, and AFAIK the legal claim wasn't brought about by the on-the-ground staffers, it was corporate stonewalling from high on above.
Hell, for all we know the vB staffers might be jealousy coveting xF and wishing they could completely re-write vB for the next release and let their coding skills fly - but have their hands tied by management or the company bean counters?!!!
Be cool <-- I'm sure that was in a film I saw recently ... Pulp Fiction? Samuel L. Jackson?
Anyway, I think it sums up the spirit of xF - we're here for the ride and the coding and the fun and the helping-each-other-out, not the Kudos of wearing the xF brand name!!!!
Cheers,
Shaun
Hell, for all we know the vB staffers might be jealousy coveting xF and wishing they could completely re-write vB for the next release and let their coding skills fly - but have their hands tied by management or the company bean counters?!!!
Be cool <-- I'm sure that was in a film I saw recently ... Pulp Fiction? Samuel L. Jackson?
Anyway, I think it sums up the spirit of xF - we're here for the ride and the coding and the fun and the helping-each-other-out, not the Kudos of wearing the xF brand name!!!!
Cheers,
Shaun
Indeed, let's avoid hostility against the wacky-shirted. I'm sure that Manders, Adrian and the rest had no part in launching the law suits against XenForo, and as far as I can see their motivation is solely to improve and develop vBulletin to the best of their ability. Don't blame them for decisions made by senior managers.
Well... for me as a paying customer of vBulletin (and once passionate community contributor over there) and XenForo I can tell that the trust that vBulletin tried to rebuild after the appalling vB4 'launch' was successfully squashed (for me... and obviously many others) by this announcement: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php/363883-Internet-Brands-claims-against-Xenforo. This was posted by mr. Adrian Harris (but yes signed as 'Internet Brands', so one could read it as it come from upper 'management'). However, when one reads this The Register article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/05/vbulletin_sues_ex_employees/, then again it's Mr. Harris himself who is clearly stating:
For a simple customer/an 'outsider' this looks and sounds like Mr. Harris does indeed have a part and it made me seriously doubt the credibility/ethics of Internet Brands, especially after first reading former statements like these:
(Source: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/show...rum-software?p=2018505&viewfull=1#post2018505)IB Adrian said:
Adrian is the public mouthpiece for vBulletin and Internet Brands. The fateful announcement reads nothing like his writing style and very much like a certain somebody else's. I think it's clear from his comments before the suits were filed what his true opinions are.
Yes, I realize this. That's also why I stated 'For a simple customer/an 'outsider' this looks and sounds...' (since one is not sure how to interpreted things/what/who is behind things).
Yes, but for a non-insider this is obviously not clear.
After the specific announcement and outings though The Register I certainly am not sure as a paying customer what his true opinions are. And trust me if I say that I don't speak only for myself. Ofcourse you (as the insider
) knows/understands more of the situation then any outsider could ever do, but for a simple customer like myself I can tell you it's highly confusing and worrying these kinds of things.
The shirts are fine, The treatment that I received from you in the past however was not.
That being said I would like to say welcome to XF and ask for your opinions on the court case, After all it would be rude of you to poke your head in only to encourage off-topic chat
We are sometimes forced by our employers into doing things we either don't feel comfortable with or don't agree with at all.
We are also usually expected to toe the line and not present a contrary professional or personal opinion outwith the company.
It might leave a horrible taste in the mouth but it's not a difficult choice for most of us with families, mortgages, and bills to pay ... we go along with it because the moral high-ground has an expensive cost associated with it.
Unless there is anything that directly associates a vB staffer with the generation and application of the law suit, then we should welcome them here - they're just like us and get just as excited about good coding and great looking apps.
Geeks unite .... lol
Cheers,
Shaun
We are also usually expected to toe the line and not present a contrary professional or personal opinion outwith the company.
It might leave a horrible taste in the mouth but it's not a difficult choice for most of us with families, mortgages, and bills to pay ... we go along with it because the moral high-ground has an expensive cost associated with it.
Unless there is anything that directly associates a vB staffer with the generation and application of the law suit, then we should welcome them here - they're just like us and get just as excited about good coding and great looking apps.
Geeks unite .... lol
Cheers,
Shaun
This is only meant as a joke, no offense intended.
they can't say anything regarding the lawsuit, they're here as IB employees, it'd be like me asking a sony employee "hey champ, how do I jailbreak my PS3?" or even better, asking vBulletin "Howdy, how do I remove the piracy protection?" It's not done.
If you are suggesting that I should not have asked then I would disagree simply by the title of the thread
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