Haha yeah guess that's why I used it.Even the NSA.
Haha yeah guess that's why I used it.Even the NSA.
In my opinion and from my understanding of what defines "social media" a forum platform is in fact in and of itself a "social media" platform.I figure this is good news for all of you looking for more social media integration/features with XF, because I feel pretty confident that XF will next be setting its sights on keeping up with the competition.
Social media are computer-mediated technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas, career interests and other forms of expression via virtual communities and networks. ... Social media are interactive Web 2.0 Internet-based applications.
I think it safe to say that I was referring to its popular or "colloquial" usage here. Perhaps unfortunately many people today tend to think of "social media" as being synonymous with Facebook and Twitter and Pinterest, etc. I feel pretty confident that my target audience in this case had no problem understanding my message.In my opinion and from my understanding of what defines "social media" a forum platform is in fact in and of itself a "social media" platform.
XF already provides the following feature and to assume it doesn't and suggest it needs integration/features in addition to what it already provides is bloat.
Unless you identify specifically who the individuals are that are your "target audience" is here its safe to say anyone who reads this is the "target audience"I feel pretty confident that my target audience in this case had no problem understanding my message.
Unless you identify specifically who the individuals are that are your "target audience" is here its safe to say anyone who reads this is the "target audience"
People tend to put everything into one basket or category such as "social media" and tend to deny or ignore that the platform they are asking to have this integrated into is already a social media tool. It's like people always asking for CMS (Content Management System) to be integrated into XF when XF as it is manages content.
People tend to put everything into one basket or category such as "social media" and tend to deny or ignore that the platform they are asking to have this integrated into is already a social media tool. It's like people always asking for CMS (Content Management System) to be integrated into XF when XF as it is manages content.
XF already provides the following feature and to assume it doesn't and suggest it needs integration/features in addition to what it already provides is bloat.
Yeah, lets not add any new features because the product is perfect and to do so would be bloat
What do you want out of XF2 if you don't want new features?
I think some of the new features in IPS look great, particularly clubs. There are some great tools to help better foster and build community, particularly local community.
It's actually quite refreshing to see some cool stock features coming from a competitor. Competition is great.
I can't wait to see what XF are able to do to complete and start ramping up the release of their own new features once they've finished all the behind the scenes legwork on XF2. Bring it on
1. Sustainability and stability in an environment that is all too rapidly changing. In a world like ours it takes a lot of running to stay in one place (home).What do you want out of XF2 if you don't want new features?
But... and this is a BIG BUT... you did NOT see those features in 4.0 of IPS. It's been a long road (and about 2 1/2 years) to get there. So, having the expectation of them being in XF 2.0 is a tad premature considering it's a major rewrite.I think some of the new features in IPS look great
But... and this is a BIG BUT... you did NOT see those features in 4.0 of IPS.
But... and this is a BIG BUT... you did NOT see those features in 4.0 of IPS. It's been a long road (and about 2 1/2 years) to get there. So, having the expectation of them being in XF 2.0 is a tad premature considering it's a major rewrite.
What if we add a "Quick reply" to actual topic list (view forum) pages that is a fast way to create new topics (threads)? Making the "here's where you type stuff" area super obvious could encourage participation.There's also another layer here that shows me how the software needs to catch up to how people "expect to use it".
I swear the more time that passes, the more frequently I get asked by people how to create a thread on the forum, quite a bunch of people that aren't used to forums so I get this idea of what are the frequent struggles for new people to find a forum welcoming and friendly to get used to.
Then after quite the feedback, this small-big feature to create a thread from the homepage appears on xF 2.0.
Yeah, the early announcement was probably a bad mis-step for it. They should have already had started the core coding before announcing it. It has led to some higher expectations than what they were wanting to do.I think a lot of it comes down to XF2 being announced almost 3 years ago. That said, I think it'd be a terrible idea if they tried to add in all of these extra major features on 2.0.0, just look how that went for IPS with the 4.0 release
We did...They should have already had started the core coding before announcing it.
When you shift development to a new product the development of the old will necessarily slow down, also the focus of what things you will add to the old one and which not. So telling their customers that they were already working on the new product wasn't wrong.Yeah, the early announcement was probably a bad mis-step for it. They should have already had started the core coding before announcing it. It has led to some higher expectations than what they were wanting to do.
Fear not, I am still here and all is well. I'm beavering away on XF2 primarily, while Mike and Chris are hard at work bringing you 1.5.
I'm aware of that, I'm also aware that IPS seems to have lots of other issues that XF doesn't.
I do try to be considerate of the fact that it must be incredibly tough for the XF team to be working for so long and hard on parts of the software that the vast majority of us will never see or fully understand and appreciate.
I know none of those IPS features are going to be in 2.0, they xf team have been pretty clear about what will or won't be at this point. And I'm not even expecting any of the IPS features listed to be in XF 2.X.
What I am hoping for, is that once 2.0 is out and they've done all the back end groundwork they want to do, the XF team can get into some kind of rhythm again for improving existing features and adding new ones on some sort of consistent basis.
There's been quite a few black holes in the XF timeline where it's felt like things have been stagnant for one reason or another.
It's encouraging to read how excited some of the developers are about XF2 on the demo forum.
It's encouraging they now have 50% more dev power now Chris is on the team.
It's also good to see some great ideas coming from a competitor and actually shipping right now. It benefits no one to only have dying competition like vb. Otherwise where's the extra pressure to make the product even better?
Hopefully the XF team and the 3rd party XF devs can take inspiration from the best of these new features and let it influence the direction they take to make the XF ecosystem even better and push forward the forum industry as a whole.
It's just surprising that in 2010 it took a certain period of time after kier/mike left to build a whole product from the ground up (and that is while dealing with a lawsuit), but it has already taken years to get version 2 into a developer beta. But I know, .. ppl always hate me for my blunt opinions .. i am just thinking about myself and the sites i help admin and run .. we want to move forward and build communities, not feel stagnated on old feature sets from 2010 and paying people hundreds of dollars for custom dev work and plugins to just get something creative done with thread's media or the way a forum list is displayed. And i guess i am just a tad bitter, because it's been the same with ipb, vb, and xenforo, when you ask for features, that instead of feeling suggestions we push forward are embraced that they get push back first ..We did...
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