In your opinion. To me, it looks like a modern web application - and I say that having offered critical feedback on its visual style. Perhaps suggest exactly what you feel needs improved?
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I'm just curious why is everyone is ripping on the new default theme. How many out there is actually gonna use the default theme? Yeah some will use it but change the colors but a majority will purchase a premade theme or commission a custom theme to be made. They have said in the past that they want the new look to be as recognizable as the current default theme and they have done that while making it look a little more modern.
I think it is because people have waited with anticipation for quite some time, to see a demo that shows mainly feature parity. Most new features are subtle or cant be show now. The most obvious difference is the style. And some of the new features are style related: like the off-canvas menu, html emoijs, CSS improvements, responsive media embeds...
But there are differences that have gone unnoticed. For example:
But there are differences that have gone unnoticed. For example:
This seems to be enough to create widget pages / portal pages.Mike said:
I think the minimal approach is good, it's less I'll have to overwrite, rewrite or remove for our customer's styles.
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I too like the clean look.
It looks that way, and as a developer I can empathize. That said, if you look closely, comments on the style aren't really about the style per-se, but an expectation, spoken or unspoken, about 2.0 having a 2016 type of UI that will give them an obvious reason to "buy".
For prospective customers, buy simply means buy, for existing ones, buy means upgrade -- even if it doesn't cost anything, there are natural barriers to such upgrades, and these customers are looking for a good reason to do it, whatever that is for them.
2.0 in it's early stage isn't far off the mark here. It just needs a different type of UI to wrap the wonders under the hood, which can be as simple as a very different type of style from what we are used to. Admins preferring the standard can use the original 2.0 style.
A reddit-type layout as a primary option would be welcomed by many. A poll I opened on TAZ a few months ago showed that half of the respondents would be willing to move from XenForo if such an option was available, the demand is there. Look at WF's feed, and threads.
Except for adjusting the like system to support positive and negative values (+1 and -1), this is mainly at the style level, more easily within reach versus something that would entail rewriting several major parts of the backend, yields better results, and everyone is happy.
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XF2 has been completely rewrote from the ground up with feature parity and then some. You're not being charged an upgrade fee or anything over your current renewal cost to move to it and yet seem to have the reaction that you're going to be forking out for another vB5 disaster.
Oh and it's such a shame XF didn't develop a style framework so that you can use a different style other than the default...
Oh and it's such a shame XF didn't develop a style framework so that you can use a different style other than the default...
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Oh lord help us... the GUI/Style (which we CAN change up) isn't as modern as the underlying code (which we CAN NOT easily change up). Hmm... let's see, which would I rather have
A) A style that I won't use at all and will have modified extensively (either myself or by purchasing a style)
or
B) Code that is "modern" in design aspect and not as hard for developers to develop for and that I have no real control over.
Uhhh.. color me stupid, but I'll take the latter option please.
They're aiming for the former.
That was my whole point behind my post. Most people are gonna modify the default whether it be CSS changes or just color changes. If they don't want to do that they will purchase a style or use a free one. Why so much emphasis is being put on something that less than 2% of people will probably use on their forums is ridiculous. The underlying update to the code is the main goal to make it faster and better developed for others to develop for it is the main goal.
I lol'd hard 
I haven't played with it much but I've been reading the feedback comments here. I'll say this
XF1 default theme is blah
XF2 default theme is blah
so. what.
Having a framework that is better for devs to use to develop addons so that someone who wants to build a community with powerful functions that work the way they want it to is way more important in the long term than a theme that catches people's eyes like BANG. JMO.
I've already noticed quite a few tweaks that I'm assuming are a result of backend coding changes. Like hovering over the convo/alerts/etc doesn't automatically pop up an overlay, you have to click it. I like that. The overlay automatically popping up made it work unexpectedly when you clicked at the same time it was popping up, leaving me to have to explain how it works to someone not used to it. Lots of little things like that is what I'm expecting to find.
But really I'm already tired of people saying it's "meh" but that's just me. LikeRuss Steve said, less junk for him to have to re-code the better. There are other solutions that are snazzy right out of the box, XF has never really been geared towards that from what I've been able to gather, it's been geared as a framework to build on and I think it looks like XF2 is going to be even better, even if that means the default out of the box is even more of a framework and less default-feature-rich than XF1 currently is. IMO if you want to have a forum that has the potential to compete with other forms of social interaction, you can't make it full of features that might be awesome now but would suck it down a hole of uselessness 2 years from now. You make it as adaptable as possible so that it can survive and evolve and thrive for much longer (even if "much longer" means 5 years).
Again. JMO.
XF1 default theme is blah
XF2 default theme is blah
so. what.
Having a framework that is better for devs to use to develop addons so that someone who wants to build a community with powerful functions that work the way they want it to is way more important in the long term than a theme that catches people's eyes like BANG. JMO.
I've already noticed quite a few tweaks that I'm assuming are a result of backend coding changes. Like hovering over the convo/alerts/etc doesn't automatically pop up an overlay, you have to click it. I like that. The overlay automatically popping up made it work unexpectedly when you clicked at the same time it was popping up, leaving me to have to explain how it works to someone not used to it. Lots of little things like that is what I'm expecting to find.
But really I'm already tired of people saying it's "meh" but that's just me. Like
Again. JMO.
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Wow, those links are pretty sweet. I'd kill for a thread listing where we could have some sort of thread ratings. People want a way to find our best content quickly. We wouldn't need a dislike button, but some way to like a thread would be nice.
And the idea of Reddit-style nested replies feels like it is becoming more standard these days. Sometimes I miss it. Like thread ratings, it's a big enough redesign that I'd only be fully confident if it were in the core.
Nonetheless, those are two pretty huge asks and perhaps the XF2 innovations will make those types of things easier.
Thank you to the XF development team. While I have only limited exposure to the core code, I gather it is excellent and only getting better.
what software is warrior forum using now? Weren't the on vbulletin previously?
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