XenForo 2.0 Discussion

[Chris D]

We have an Off Topic forum which is probably more appropriate to discuss the ideology of client management so please continue that discussion there.

This thread is for discussion about XF2.

 

[AndrewSimm]

We have an Off Topic forum which is probably more appropriate to discuss the ideology of client management so please continue that discussion there.

This thread is for discussion about XF2.

Then give us something to talk about!

Lets start with what approach XF 2 is taking with mobile and hot it will differ from XF 1!

 

[Chris D]

We have given things to talk about, quite recently in fact. We don't have anything more to talk about at the moment but we will update the closed sticky at the top of this forum and this thread when there is more to talk about.

 

[Mert]

Just take your time and make sure the release script is feature compatible with 1.5 and has major improvements for extensibility.

XF 1.5 is currently leader product in it's market and doesn't need any urgent change.

 

[wang]

XF 1.5 is currently leader product in it's market and doesn't need any urgent change.

I fully agree with this.

 

[Ben44]

This thread has been running for a couple of years now, are we any nearer to a release ??

 

[Ozzy47]

Sure, it's nearer than it was two years ago.

 

[Chris D]

That is certainly true.

Here are a few of the updates we've given since making the original announcement:
https://xenforo.com/community/threads/xenforo-2-0-development-updates.113262/

 

[Xon]

Sure, it's nearer than it was two years ago.

Given the scope of the changes, there is probably another 6 months to 1.5 years of development time before they have a releasable alpha/beta.

Remember; they need to update every official add-on too.

 

[ManagerJosh]

It's my understanding that XenForo 2.0 is a complete rewrite, not some half baked "refactoring" that another forum brand is doing.

Assuming my understanding is correct, it means it takes a lot of time to ensure we are reaching a rich feature set and stable environment.

 

[whynot]

It's my understanding that XenForo 2.0 is a complete rewrite, not some half baked "refactoring" that another forum brand is doing.

Assuming my understanding is correct,

"The proof of the pudding is in the eating."
There are only assumings for a long time.

 

[ManagerJosh]

"The proof of the pudding is in the eating."
There are only assumings for a long time.

"the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"

 

[Lawrence]

@Chris D What is the reason for using double brackets ({{ .... }}) in XF 2.0 template syntax (for phrases and if statements)?

 

[Daniel Hood]

@Chris D What is the reason for using double brackets ({{ .... }}) in XF 2.0 template syntax (for phrases and if statements)?

I assume it's something like Twig. Quote from http://twig.sensiolabs.org/doc/templates.html

There are two kinds of delimiters: {% ... %} and {{ ... }}. The first one is used to execute statements such as for-loops, the latter prints the result of an expression to the template.

 

[Paul B]

I like how you can do stuff like this in XF2:

{{ $thread.thread_id ? phrase('edit_thread') : phrase('create_thread') }}

In XF1 the equivalent would be:

{xen:if '{$thread.thread_id}', '{xen:phrase edit_thread}', '{xen:phrase create_thread}'}

Edit: Before anyone wonders whether I have access to an early build of XF2, or even any of the code, I do not. I took that from Mike's post here: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/xenforo-2-0-development-updates.113262/#post-1044323

 

[Snog]

I assume it's something like Twig. Quote from http://twig.sensiolabs.org/doc/templates.html

That would make sense since Symfony has already been mentioned in this thread.

 

[Chris D]

It is Twig-like but ultimately our own system.

Variables can still be enclosed in single braces e.g.

{$myVar}

But for richer syntax we have double braces. The syntax that is usable inside these braces is somewhat PHP-like.

You can use it to do ternary conditions, call template functions (phrase() is a function, as is link() and what you may remember as helpers are now generally functions too) or even string concatenation and calculations, e.g.

{{ $thing.id ? phrase('edit') . ': ' . $thing.title :  phrase('create') .  ' ' . 2 + 2 }}

You can also construct arrays, use comparison operators, and use bool and null values and that kind of thing.

It ultimately makes for a much more consistent, powerful and sometimes clearer syntax.

 

[AndyB]

Hi Chris,

Will XenForo v2.0 have the ability to have HTML in a Phrase?

Thank you.

 

[Snog]

I would hope so, otherwise they'd be taking away the ability to have HTML in a phrase.

 

[Chris D]

Indeed. Phrases already mostly support HTML but there are cases where HTML won't render in phrases due to us having to escape the output where the phrase is used. This is usually related to security, however, and therefore unlikely to change.