FWIW, iOS has a version of hover .. light press vs heavy press.
Do browsers support the two presses ?
Do browsers support the two presses ?
Xenforo Ltd values consistency between mobile and desktop versus optimal experiences in each domain.
XenForo 2 allows admins to set 2 different styles for mobile and desktop, doesn't it?Xenforo Ltd values consistency between mobile and desktop versus optimal experiences in each domain.
XenForo 2 allows admins to set 2 different styles for mobile and desktop, doesn't it?
XF2 is the same as XF1, media queries are used to make a single style responsive to the visitors device.XenForo 2 allows admins to set 2 different styles for mobile and desktop, doesn't it?
I agree with not rushing a product out before it's ready but 3 years is too much of a stretch. What's the main reasons behind the long delay?
I don't mind feedback being blunt, as long as you don't mind me being similarly so.
Such a comparison is extremely short sighted and partly inaccurate.
So, how has it taken longer for three developers to develop XenForo 2.0.0 vs. the two developers it took to develop XenForo 1.0.0? Most people can appreciate and understand...
- Development started in 2009, not 2010.
- The lawsuit kicked in about 18 months after development started, and by the time it reared its head, the software was just approaching Beta 1 so was practically finished.
- XenForo 1.0.0 was released just under two years after development began.
- That means it took two years to develop XenForo 1.0.0 vs the coming up to three years to develop XenForo 2.0.0.
Quite simply, in 2009-2010, Mike and Kier were developing XenForo 1.0.0, whereas Mike, Kier and I are rewriting/developing:
While we're doing that monumental task, we're also supporting and maintaining all of the above. We're also fielding and spending time that should be spent developing answering questions such as this.
- XenForo 1.5.14
- XenForo Resource Manager 1.2.5
- XenForo Media Gallery 1.1.13
- XenForo Enhanced Search 1.1.7
- A load of new features for XenForo 2.0 and all of the above
In the middle of the three years we're talking about, Mike and I took pretty much 4-6 months off developing XenForo 2.0.0 so we could release XenForo 1.5.0. Amongst all of this, we're still answering tickets, support questions on the forum, writing documentation for things and doing our best to keep people informed of where we are.
If you ever get the opportunity, install XenForo 1.0.0 some time and compare it side by side to XenForo 1.5.13. XenForo 1.0.0 was a XenForo that only had a fraction of the support commitments, a fraction of the functionality, a fraction (basically none) additional products to support. No responsive design. In fact, if you look through the Have You Seen forum from pages 1-4 you will see all of these familiar looking features that we're using extensively now that probably weren't even conceived in that initial 2 year development period. And when you're developing a product from scratch you have basically no customer expectations to meet, there's room to take an iterative approach to things and there's just basically no barriers in front of you.
We've held our hands up to the fact that the announcement was perhaps a bit early, and in an ideal world we'd definitely like to be further forward now than we are. But when you actually think about the absolute mammoth task that we've had in front of us, 3 years is really no time at all.
Chris D said:I'll hesitantly say "not many".Ian Hitt said:Just because somebody inevitably has to ask, do you have a rough idea of how many more dev releases there will be before beta?
Most of this release comes courtesy of @Kier meanwhile @Mike and I are primarily working on Resource Manager and Media Gallery respectively. Making good progress
If you want that kind of quality you need to start tomorrow.We're only asking because we want to start using it yesterday because we know what a quality product it will be.
It does in XF2 (Ctrl + Enter or Cmd+Enter).message replying hitting enter/return should submit message
Except, by putting it on their site, they are able to test it even further before calling it stable and having their customers try it on their live sites.The problem is that for me and my community Xenforo 2 cannot come quick enough now...
You are unfortunately seeing the success of your product and once you put it live on your own site, there was only every going to be:
I WANT IT NOW!
And telling members "some time later this year"; well lets be honest that is not good business - if you had no plan/timing of release you should not of put it on your site. And also you have a BUY IT NOW sign at the bottom of the forums, surely that is misleading???
It's like putting the most amazing looking sweets on the shelf in a candy store and telling kids you cant have them yet!
I am optimistic though, secretly you guys are going to do it soon (fingers crossed). And it looks amazing by the way!
Except, by putting it on their site, they are able to test it even further before calling it stable and having their customers try it on their live sites.
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