s9e Media Sites 2.18.6

[mm-tech]

Well yes, but actually no. We just had a case in germany where you have to pay a fine if you use Google Fonts CDN, because the "fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject" override the interrests of the website provider to use a CDN. I don't think that the data processing reasons

• Processing is necessary to satisfy a contract to which the data subject is a party.
• You need to process the data to comply with a legal obligation.
• You need to process the data to save somebody’s life.
• Processing is necessary to perform a task in the public interest or to carry out some official function

for social media embeds will hold up in court either.

 

[JoshyPHP]

Is it possible to implement this ?

In theory yes, but I don't have any plans for something like that, and it would be better suited as its own add-on. Maybe something that toggles all media embeds on a per-user basis. I'm surprised there isn't already an add-on for this if it's a legal requirement in Europe.

With that said, I'm not aware of any personal data being sent to third parties from any embeds created by this add-on. The HTML code for any embed is the same for all users; There is no personalisation available. The only data that's sent is that of a normal HTTP request, same as clicking a link on any page. Embeds from social networks such as tweets are contained in their own iframe and don't have access to the XenForo page. I don't know what constitutes "personal data" for the purpose of the GDPR, so it's possible that just making an anonymous request would fall under their definition.

 

[Mouth]

We just had a case in germany where you have to pay a fine if you use Google Fonts CDN, because the "fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject" override the interrests of the website provider to use a CDN. I don't think that the data processing reasons

You're misrepresenting or misunderstanding this case. The reason was because the Google fonts can be provided to the end user from the target server, without sending and providing the client browser and ip address to the CDN/Google.
In the case of media embeds, there's no similarity since the source media comes from the 3rd party and cannot be provided by your website. If you utilising media embeds in your site, your own privacy and T&C's should cover this.

 

[Mouth]

I'm not aware of any personal data being sent to third parties from any embeds created by this add-on.

In the Google Fonts ruling, the client IP address is considered personal data (as it can be used to identify the user). Fairly sure that media embeds enable the providing of client ip address to the media site/server.

 

[mm-tech]

You're misrepresenting or misunderstanding this case. The reason was because the Google fonts can be provided to the end user from the target server, without sending and providing the client browser and ip address to the CDN/Google.

Okay, I see what you mean. But it's up to the interpretation of the judges whether transmitting IPs to insecure third countries like the US is justified by the interests of the website provider to provide pretty embeds. A lot major websites in Germany are playing it safe and ask the user for consent before embedding external media.

In the case of media embeds, there's no similarity since the source media comes from the 3rd party and cannot be provided by your website. If you utilising media embeds in your site, your own privacy and T&C's should cover this.

The unfurling in Xenforo does not transmit the user IP to the unfurled website, so there is technically a way to provide the third party media previews to the visitor with no personal data leakage.

 

[mm-tech]

In theory yes, but I don't have any plans for something like that, and it would be better suited as its own add-on. Maybe something that toggles all media embeds on a per-user basis. I'm surprised there isn't already an add-on for this if it's a legal requirement in Europe.

Okay, thanks for looking into it. I haven't found something specifically for xenforo, but I will keep looking.

 

[Mouth]

The unfurling in Xenforo does not transmit the user IP to the unfurled website, so there is technically a way to provide the third party media previews to the visitor with no personal data leakage.

Unfurling does not access media. Instead your xF server connects realtime to the target server and collects html metadata presented by the page, eg. title, logo, etc. You couldn't, technically, utilise unfurlign functionality to retrieve/stream embedded media. When your embedded media is presented (displayed or played), then the client browser will be making a connection to the target media server to retrieve/stream the media content.

What you're probably wanting, is a proxy/cache for the embedded media similar to how the image proxy works.

 

[JoshyPHP]

JoshyPHP updated s9e Media Sites with a new update entry:

Updated Telegram and Twitter

Telegram embeds now support dark themes. No functional change in embedded tweets.

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[Ivo2]

Antother question to tiktok Video. Is it possible to fast forward a TikTok-Video?

Like in that Video, don't work for me with s9e

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At my Page looks like that

 

[JoshyPHP]

I don't use TikTok but they hide the player's control buttons and they don't seem to provide a way to fastforward. Clicking on the video stops it on my computer.

 

[JoshyPHP]

JoshyPHP updated s9e Media Sites with a new update entry:

Updated Vocaroo and YouMaker

Updated Vocaroo player, removed the old Flash player.
Fixed an issue with some YouMaker URLs.

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[ForumFan]

Please pardon the newbie question... I recently got this add-on. Works FANTASTIC, by the way!

How do I update it? I don't see such a feature on XenForo to update add-ons like you see on WordPress. Do we just download and install the latest version? If so, are all our settings / data retained from the older version?

Thanks!

 

[Chromaniac]

it's pretty different than wordpress. this document might help.

Add-ons | Manual | XenForo

End-user documentation for XenForo

xenforo.com

basically you go to your admin panel. sidebar > add-ons > install/upgrade from archive button.

just upload the file provided by the developer and the addon should install/upgrade just fine.

 

[ForumFan]

it's pretty different than wordpress. this document might help.

Add-ons | Manual | XenForo

End-user documentation for XenForo

xenforo.com

basically you go to your admin panel. sidebar > add-ons > install/upgrade from archive button.

just upload the file provided by the developer and the addon should install/upgrade just fine.

Roger that. That's what I thought, but I wanted to make sure. Thanks!

 

[JoshyPHP]

As Chromaniac said, you can just upload the ZIP archive to upgrade. You can click the "Watch" button on the add-on's page to be notified when an update is published. You won't lose any of the add-on's settings when updating.

There's an add-on from ThemeHouse that automatically fetches updates from some providers but I haven't tried it recently so I don't know whether it works with third-party add-ons. https://xenforo.com/community/resources/install-and-upgrade.6753/

 

[sross]

The YouTube embed is quite huge, is there anyway to make it smaller? I selected option in app but no change. Thanks!

 

[JoshyPHP]

How big is that? The default size is not particularly big (640 × 360) and the option only removes that limit, making it bigger on desktop.

You can style embeds via CSS. There's a description in the FAQ: https://xenforo.com/community/resources/s9e-media-sites.5973/field?field=faq
For example:

[data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube"] { max-width: 300px !important; }

 

[Weppa333]

FYi @JoshyPHP is seems mIcrosoft Edge (chromium) refuses to display twitter embed for privacy reasons

 

[JoshyPHP]

Yeah, I figure that most "privacy-conscious" browsers will block Twitter one way or another. Unfortunately there isn't really a simple way to detect that a site is being blocked. There's a bunch of hackish ways to determine that Twitter is unavailable or blocked, but I don't know that it's worth adding.

I'd love to be able to optionally use Nitter as an alternative to Twitter's own embeds but AFAIK they don't provide a way to resize the embeds to the correct dimensions.

 

[Weppa333]

Well to be fair it's not a bug in your product, it's the browser that "refuses" to display things...
not an easy world