When I started my forum I think I only visited the Softwares forum four times in three years if memory serves me correctly. I was too busy in my own forum and really didn't feel the need to go back there very often as I didn't change anything for a very long time. This was a SMF forum by the way. I visited vB.com a few times and finally decided to move to vB4 for a couple of reasons. After the move I had one crisis after another having never been involved in a software change. I actually ended up reading vB.com more than my own forum for awhile (not a good thing). In my reading I did notice that a few names kept popping up over and over again. Kier and Mike were a couple of the names I saw mentioned multiple times that they were a large part of what was good about vB. From the posts you could see the members highly regarded these guys. Well a post appeared about this place so I came and took a look. After being out here a single day I finally understood what all those people were talking about on vB.com. You guys do amazing work at a very fast pace. I think all the positive comments I saw over on vB.com are well deserved. I can't wait until the doors are open and you guys are getting cash flow. You deserve it. On a selfish note I can't wait until I am able to buy a copy of this for myself.