Sheldon
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I don't understand why you want XF to be VB.
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I don't understand why you want XF to be VB.
John L.
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In the end, it doesn't really matter what you individually want to be added in. It's more of a collective when it comes to new features and their importance. If a lot of people see the value in the reputation system then it will get the necessary support to be added. If it does not, then it won't be added.
Regardless of how many people say that they don't want a CMS, still doesn't deny the fact that it is one of the more widely requested features in the suggestions forum. So there is no point trying to drown each other out with your opinions. In the grand scheme of things your voice is but 1 of many. The important thing is making sure you DO voice your opinion (in the appropriate places).
Regardless of how many people say that they don't want a CMS, still doesn't deny the fact that it is one of the more widely requested features in the suggestions forum. So there is no point trying to drown each other out with your opinions. In the grand scheme of things your voice is but 1 of many. The important thing is making sure you DO voice your opinion (in the appropriate places).
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DroidOne
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XF seems to be growing the fastest among its competitors which all offer, more or less, greater CMS functionality. The XF team are obviously doing something right.
If there was great interest in a CMS - wouldn't the opposite be true?
If there was great interest in a CMS - wouldn't the opposite be true?
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Teapot
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Now, I'm not fussed whether a reputation system is added or not, but there actually is a reason why less features can be better - and its one that I have seen people argue vB (and even IPB sometimes) suffers from: feature creep.
Remember that XenForo is developed by two people - two talented, experienced developers, yes, but only two people nonetheless. Every feature they have to support adds more bugs to fix, more combinations of settings that can cause these bugs, and more time adapting, extending, and amending the feature either to extend it or maintain support in future versions of the software. This is one of the reasons XF's modding scene is so valuable - things like galleries, blogs, reputation systems, and far more incredibly niche features can be added at an admin's whim without adding extra workload on the core XF developers, who are worked hard enough trying to deliver a top-class standard forum experience.
XenForo mods are amazing. Compatibility issues are low or nonexistent, and although we are all very rightfully worried about having to rely on an external developer to provide updates, bug fixes, and support for the mods, it's actually less of an issue than it would be on other platforms - I have multiple mods by developers who have not been active on XenForo.com for a while, and they all survived the transition from 1.3 to 1.4 without a hitch.
And of course there's the age-old chestnut, polished a thousand times in these hallowed halls: a feature that is vital to you is not necessarily vital to anyone else, let alone vital full stop. If you want a piece of software to do exactly what you want, then prepare to fork out for a custom solution - and trust me on this one, bespoke software is not cheap.
When it comes down to it, the features that are added are based on the XF team's wishes, with their customers as a major input. They know what makes a strong forum experience for most of their customers, and they know what is popular and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Some features, as loudly as we may clamour for them, may not work with their plans for the software - and that's fine! Because XenForo is fantastic because of this laser focus, not in spite of it.
gmaister22
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we don't want it for free, we just want to be ABLE to purchase a CMS, Blog and Gallery addon...while CMS is the most critical , i think..
Martok
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You can already purchase these from reputable developers. By developing these, it allows the small XenForo development team to concentrate on the thing that is most important - the forum software itself.
gmaister22
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Sadly, i don't want to depend on third party developers, i don't feel safe with that for something big as that. Also there is no CMS, CMS and Portals are different.
Gladius
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Addon developers come and go and there's no guaranteed continuity. I'd much prefer if there was another excellent developer or two on the team tasked solely with expanding on the base functionality that Kier & Co. provide - they could take on a CMS, blog, gallery and a few other most commonly requested addons. That way Kier could still focus mostly on the core XF, but we'd be able to rely on there always being someone who would take over said projects for XenForo Ltd. even if the original developer gets run over by a bus, jumps off a cliff, gets bored and leaves, becomes unresponsive, stops improving/updating the product, etc. etc. This lack of a certain future for any addon is the biggest reason why anyone who is serious about their forum has considerable misgivings about using an unofficial addon for any of the more important forum functions.
Has Mike changed his name?
Sheldon
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Nothing is ever a given.
There is nothing solid that says XF will roll on forever.
You took a chance buying XF, just as you chance any purchase of software, or any item pretty much for that matter. Not giving some of these developers that same chance is simply a mistake on your part.
There is nothing solid that says XF will roll on forever.
You took a chance buying XF, just as you chance any purchase of software, or any item pretty much for that matter. Not giving some of these developers that same chance is simply a mistake on your part.
Well it just seems a little ignorant when in fact there are only two developers: Mike and Kier.You'll have to excuse me if I don't know the name of every person involved with XF, I don't live here.
Mike is very active on the forum, I'm sure you've seen his posts.
Gladius
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It's probably more likely that XF will continue to be developed than that Random Addon #475 will.
There's always risk involved with everything, but there is such a thing as a calculated risk you can take willingly vs. one that you are forced into. One of vBs that I'm in the process of migrating to XF has blogs, user albums and various other functionality that XF does not. In order to keep said content, I have no choice but to pick various externally developed addons to be even able to bring that content over to XF. I'd like to have a choice who I'm buying it from (official vs. unofficial), that's all.
I'll fully admit my own ignorance and forgetfulness when it comes to names; I didn't remember Mike's name despite having seen many of his posts. I'm sure I'll remember it now.
Shelley
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You'll have to excuse me if I don't know the name of every person involved with XF, I don't live here.
I don't think you have to live here to remember the two developers names. Mr bombastic ever so sarcastic lubba lubba. *dances out of the thread*
Gladius
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Dang, I get nearly crucified for knowing only half of the dev's names - imagine I didn't know Kier's either! Would there ever have been a crime more vile committed? 
On the upside, the chances of me ever forgetting about Kier & Mike at this point are slim even if I'm hit with a bad case of memory loss. 
On the upside, the chances of me ever forgetting about Kier & Mike at this point are slim even if I'm hit with a bad case of memory loss.
Shelley
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Dang, I get nearly crucified for knowing only half of the dev's names - imagine I didn't know Kier's either! Would there ever have been a crime more vile committed?
I would never put you up/nominate you for a good old crucifixion. #fact
Back on topic: Has anyone suggested it may be a good idea to develop a CMS for 2.0? *runs for cover*
jmurrayhead
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Gee, I wonder if people want a CMS?
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