XenForo 2.0 Discussion
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vBulletin has it (introduced in vBulletin 3 as it says, somewhere around 2002)
.What is the point of threaded view, I wonder?
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Threaded view goes way back to the character-based WWWBoard script. I started using WebBBS in 1997, which was based on WWWBoard, so it existed prior to that. UBB was the big name back around the year 2000 (Ultimate Bulletin Board) and it ran via CGI scripting and without a database, if I remember it correctly. UBB was pretty much the basic layout idea behind the kind of forum systems that would follow like vBulletin, phpBB, SMF (which was another name previously), etc., and the newer systems like XF. At one point, UBB came out with a short-lived product called UBB Threads which I rarely saw used anywhere, and it offered the threaded view; Phorum was a PHP-based threaded view forum that also did not gain too many followers.
I can only think of one major forum still using something based on the old WWWBoard format: Audio Asylum. The members there wouldn't change it for anything, but so many others (like myself) find it cumbersome to read through and don't even bother visiting. It has been kludged together with extra features to help combat spam (remember, these ancient mid 90s scripts had no need for logins as the flaming/trolling/sock-puppet/spamming mentality had yet to overtake them). But try reading through it a bit. I used to prefer a threaded style, but now I have gotten so used to this style of forum that I can't readapt to my old ways anymore. And with it being about as mobile-hostile as a site can be (try navigating it on a smartphone...ouch!), it surprises me they still have any traffic there.
I can only think of one major forum still using something based on the old WWWBoard format: Audio Asylum. The members there wouldn't change it for anything, but so many others (like myself) find it cumbersome to read through and don't even bother visiting. It has been kludged together with extra features to help combat spam (remember, these ancient mid 90s scripts had no need for logins as the flaming/trolling/sock-puppet/spamming mentality had yet to overtake them). But try reading through it a bit. I used to prefer a threaded style, but now I have gotten so used to this style of forum that I can't readapt to my old ways anymore. And with it being about as mobile-hostile as a site can be (try navigating it on a smartphone...ouch!), it surprises me they still have any traffic there.
O yes.... UBB. Those were the times. I forgot all about that but your post brings back good memories. I remember investigating that before I opted for vBulletin in 2001, which was a fantastic product (2.x and 3.x series), until... well
. The normal linear view of any forum software always suited my needs, in fact... I don't even know why the term 'thread' still exists and is consciously chosen for certain forum products. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that in my language (Dutch) this term is hardly ever used to describe forum topics/discussions and it is much more common in the English language? I still get questions about it from Dutch forum-members asking what a 'thread' means. Most people in The Netherlands speak English quite well (for a Dutch person that is ;-) , so they know what a topic is and they know what a discussion is. But a thread? Sounds like a threat
and that is how far they come in the understanding of the word. Anyway...
I hope it breathes a bit of life into 2.0...I am still on 1.5, theres just not enough to move to the newer version for me.A little birdy told me they've already done quite a bit of work on XF 2.1.
yap same here i thinkin about it but there is no any benefit to upgrade 1.5 to XF2 i dont see it, and XF2 fail on small things who essentially needed for any admin, for now stay on 1.5 forever
Want to elaborate?yap same here i thinkin about it but there is no any benefit to upgrade 1.5 to XF2 i dont see it, and XF2 fail on small things who essentially needed for any admin, for now stay on 1.5 forever
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so all that features is possible in xf1 with an add on!
But it is built into the core now, less chance of it breaking or a developer dropping support.
That's sort of like saying you don't want to buy a new car because the old one "still runs". Sure, it does, but it's just going to keep getting older whereas the new one is much better under the hood and will be able to support more new-fangled gadgets.
you start to annoy here realy, i am talk about upgrade from 1.5 to XF2 not for fresh install or start new project if so i will use XF2 to, but for now, for me, mein opinion only is stay on 1.5.
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