XenForo 2.0 Discussion

[sbj]

I am not pushing my agenda of getting calendar build in xf.
I was just replying to the question "mi mi mi, what do others do better, come, tell us".
So I gave a pretty meaningful answer with a good big example.
I am totally sure that facebooks millions of users don't need a calendar. And many of them didn't want it. And many of them don't care.
I can apply your logic to anything, to any feature and on any platform. Your arguement is invalid because it is not an arguement.
By that logic we can pretty much never have enhancements, because with your false logic arguement you can deny any progress for any platform @RobParker

 

[RobParker]

I am not pushing my agenda of getting calendar build in xf.
I was just replying to the question "mi mi mi, what do others do better, come, tell us".
So I gave a pretty meaningful answer with a good big example.
I am totally sure that facebooks millions of users don't need a calendar. And many of them didn't want it. And many of them don't care.
I can apply your logic to anything, to any feature and on any platform. Your arguement is invalid because it is not an arguement.
By that logic we can pretty much never have enhancements, because with your false logic arguement you can deny any progress for any platform @RobParker

Well, no.

Events are one of the key parts of facebook (and core to most social media platforms) because people know each other and use it for organising their social life. Events don't really help discussions at all and there are many other things that would benefit discussions better (likes/ratings and trending content are both things that forums should absolutely steal from Facebook as they relate to the forums core business, i.e. discussions).

As I said, development should be targeted to where it helps XF become the best forum software. Neither adding calendars or newsletters do that as they're on the periphery of the activity that goes on on a forum.

 

[RobinHood]

Events don't really help discussions at all

Events help foster community.
People discuss events to plan them.
People discuss events after the fact to reflect on them.
XenForo is community software, it says so on the box in large header font.

‘A compelling community experience’

It’s seems such a shame that 7 odd years after launch and multiple calendar add ons later we still have people arguing about whether or not something as basic as a calendar is important to a community experience.

 

[sbj]

Well, no.

Well, yes.
Your arguement only holds when you cherry pick Facebook from all the examples, but it doesn't hold when we look at it in general.
Yes, events are key parts of Facebook and your reasoning is because people know each other and so on.
But people on Twitch don't know each other. People on reddit don't know each other. And yet they with their millions of users have calendar in their own quirky way.
And let's say ALL big guns have it for a reason which can't be applied to XF (which is ridiculous, but let's assume).
How about the other 3 competitors (WBB, IPS and VB5) in the market which do have this integrated?
So basically those 3 don't know, Facebook doesn't know, Twitch and reddit don't know, but YOU do know?
Sorry, but your points don't hold up.

As I said, development should be targeted to where it helps XF become the best forum software. Neither adding calendars or newsletters do that as they're on the periphery of the activity that goes on on a forum.

You are so arrogant. So we all want the worst for XF and you the best or what? And according to your majestic view the right path is yours only.
Sure, man, whatever you say. Your debating skills are weak, this is my last message to you.

 

[Chris D]

Let's just leave the argument about whether a calendar as a core feature or not is needed, it's a really moot point.

If we got to the point where we wanted to add a calendar/events feature, and we felt that it was only relevant to certain niches, then we would release it as a separate product (as WoltLab does). If we decided not to do that, and include it in the core, then, as ever, you will likely just be able to disable it with options/permissions if it was something you didn't need.

 

[Gladius]

If you go for a calendar, make it an addon and most people will be happy. Obviously not everyone, because if that ever happened the Earth would implode and time stop, but you get the idea.

From my perspective it's more of a niche feature that most forums don't really need, but obviously there will also be various forums which do, as with every other feature you can think of. It's always just a question of whether the majority or at least a good chunk of your customers will make use of a feature vs. it only being enabled on a small number of forums with very specific requirements.

XenForo does not have a worthwhile system that would gauge the interest level of the majority of its customers in any meaningfully accurate way, so it's just going to boil down to developer best guess and/or measuring the interest of a minuscule minority of admins who regularly visit the suggestions forum.

 

[M@rc]

A calendar would very much benefit my forum. People in specific user groups can add a date for an event and members can be alerted when it begins. There can also be an opt-in option if a specific event is not for the entire community, so not everyone will receive an alert.

The XF alert system would be the most important part of the calendar.

Right now we do things manually as admins via the admin panel which results in A LOT more work.

IMO, you can't really rely on discussions alone in this day and age if you're running a forum. People can do that anywhere. If a competitor forum lets you discuss everything you can do at your forum, but they have other additional activities going on, where would you rather be?

 

[Chris D]

To be honest, expressing interest and having an on-going discussion for such features outside of the suggestion thread (if there is one) is a waste. Please continue the discussion about specific features in the appropriate thread.

In fact, this thread itself has outlived its purpose. XenForo 2.0 has already been released and as I stated earlier, we will talk more about the upcoming XF 2.1 closer to the time:

We’re not going to provide a running commentary on development, but I can at least confirm that development of XF2.1 is well under way. And, as is typical with our previous releases and that of our competitors, more details will be released via the HYS forum closer to the time.