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This confirm your website is about communication and not information. Thanks.

It has been chosen to delete this addon from the list sadly for the original developer of this addon.

No, it is not deleted, I just chose to not post it here due to the drama you are unfortunately stirring up. You obviously aren't browsing the site any, and for you to claim it is only a promotion of paid modifications if completely wrong, and comical at the same time.

Of the above list, 20 are FREE modifications add-ons. Most of what is discussed there are actually about free modifications. You can draw any conclusion you would like, it doesn't change what is happening there.

Look, I understand you don't like me because I misspoke and said I apologized, which in fact after reading the convo I did not, which in turn I apologized for that. Roll you eyes about where I got the info from the add-on, seems to me the picture stated it all. Every other addition is listed in the same manner.

Either way, enjoy your day.
 
I sat here for like 15 minutes re-reading what cclaerhour was trying to say before I finally caught on. I'm still not sure if he is trying to insult the site or not, but the site is awesome. Lots of helpful people there that have helped me with my site tons.
 
I sat here for like 15 minutes re-reading what cclaerhour was trying to say before I finally caught on. I'm still not sure if he is trying to insult the site or not, but the site is awesome. Lots of helpful people there that have helped me with my site tons.
I don't know what he's going on about, either. Ignored.
 
Cèdric unfortunately I am missing your point too. Me and Stew are kind of running xfshowcase together so I'd be happy to discuss any concerns you have if you want to send me a PM.

Whatever has happened I can assure you that neither me nor Stew meant to cause you any offence or wrong doing.
 
Let me please make a common reply if you don't mind. I've reacted to the post of Tajhay who pointed out that bumping a thread to keep alive might seem curious (source). I've just explained him my point of view that can be shared for someone who is able to see and read (which should be most of us in theory): this website has been made, until now, to help developers to promote their resources. And saying that the promotion doesn't target in priority paid resources is dishonest. Mostly all the communication on this website is based on them. The "win a free copy" operations are just an example among others. Anyway this purpose is not hidden either (see that post). So missing that point is something, let's be the as neutral as possible, quite "strange".

Let's go back to the original remark of that thread about the "bump". Is bumping a thread to promote commercial addons is something that should/should not be done? This question is legitimate and the answer belongs to XenForo moderators. Now I don't see where I've insulted this website. Yes, I'm clearly opposed to the concept of promoting mostly exclusively paid addons, of organising conquests which mixed paid&free addons, of allowing paid developers to vote, and even letting the administrator(s) of this website to be at the same time judge and jury which from an editorial perspective is a shame, but I only used the vocabulary of "communication" which I opposed to "information".

Now it's absolutely true that I've got a personal problem with the main developer of this website as he has explained himself a few posts above. I've already said this 1/2 week ago, XenForo moderators chose to delete my posts, so there is nothing to discuss about it. The only thing that has changed since then is the reference of my addons has been deleted (they were free for information; <= this might avoid any false allegation), so yes I chose the word "censored" on purpose. But again this is the right, and the responsibility of administrators who claim to create a website about "resources". And my reaction about the question of bumping that thread has nothing to do with it.

The second point of my previous posts is that I've asked to be added to the credit of an addon since I've contributed for and, I think, helped the community. I've also proposed another solution which was to use another version of this addon for which I didn't participate. This way the censor policy could still apply. Everybody was happy living one's life in one's side. I don't see where the "bad" to say/request that. I said "bad" because I forgot the original expression used by the main developer of this website and I can't get it back since the post has been edited again.

I would like to say something about this method to edit a post after some reactions have been given. From the perspective of having an honest debate, this method is disgusted & repulsive. Last time I've been forced to made public some private conversation since I've been accused of not saying the truth and this was the only way I have to defend myself. I come back a few minutes and the previous post has totally been edited making my previous reply look like a none-sense and presenting me like a fool. And it happens again today with a post on XenForo and with a post on xfshowcase. This last post was about my request to be quoted in the credit (which is a normal thing for which any developer should not "miss the point"). The first reaction is "Its removed from the listing. I choose not to show it as a "featured" product for our site in this thread". Well ok, the addon has been deleted. That was not what I was asking... The addon is indeed deleted in the XenForo post(this one). I'm curious, I'm going to have a look on the website a few minutes later. I see my pseudo has been added in very little and in pink... What should I understand with this very strangely way to be added to the credit? Is this website is really about XenForo ressources ? What kind of administrators/developers would dare to do such a shameless thing? This is such stupid, I don't react. And I was right not to since the message has been edited, again, and my name pseudo is no more in the reference.

So Chris, since you seem to miss the point and you're reacted in public , I'm asking you: are you joking? Is this a way to behave? Come on, since the debate has taken place I've reacted quite politely and peacefully but this kind of behaviour is a shame and if you're really an administrator of this website (which I didn't know) you should really put some rules.
 
Yes, I'm clearly opposed to the concept of promoting mostly exclusively paid addons, of organising conquests which mixed paid&free addons, of allowing paid developers to vote, and even letting the administrator(s) of this website to be at the same time judge and jury which from an editorial perspective is a shame, but I only used the vocabulary of "communication" which I opposed to "information".

Judge and Jury? :confused:

You have obviously missed what the site is about, and seem to be hung up on something else. Its a shame you have to ruin an add-on, and having me remove it completely from our site, because of your nonsense. If you are so strongly convinced you are being censored, update the license in the zip file (none by the way), wager war with xF to have multiple authors shown.

I went off this part:
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I would rather remove the add-on completely than to have to put up with this any longer.

Again, I hope you enjoy your day, and this suites your needs.
 
1) unlike vBulletin, xF welcomes the discussion of paid add-ons, more so to the extent they advertise them and allow developers to direct link to payment options.

2) It his site, his xF license, his choice who he wants to advertise. I don't see why your demanding you be added to the site credit or demanding he change to a different version. There is nothing in your license that states you must include me in all threads regarding any advertisement towards websites my product is used on, so what makes you feel you have the right to demand this?

With that said.. Please stop derailing this thread..
 
Let me please make a common reply if you don't mind. I've reacted to the post of Tajhay who pointed out that bumping a thread to keep alive might seem curious (source). I've just explained him my point of view that can be shared for someone who is able to see and read (which should be most of us in theory): this website has been made, until now, to help developers to promote their resources. And saying that the promotion doesn't target in priority paid resources is dishonest. Mostly all the communication on this website is based on them. The "win a free copy" operations are just an example among others. Anyway this purpose is not hidden either (see that post). So missing that point is something, let's be the as neutral as possible, quite "strange".

Let's go back to the original remark of that thread about the "bump". Is bumping a thread to promote commercial addons is something that should/should not be done? This question is legitimate and the answer belongs to XenForo moderators. Now I don't see where I've insulted this website. Yes, I'm clearly opposed to the concept of promoting mostly exclusively paid addons, of organising conquests which mixed paid&free addons, of allowing paid developers to vote, and even letting the administrator(s) of this website to be at the same time judge and jury which from an editorial perspective is a shame, but I only used the vocabulary of "communication" which I opposed to "information".

Now it's absolutely true that I've got a personal problem with the main developer of this website as he has explained himself a few posts above. I've already said this 1/2 week ago, XenForo moderators chose to delete my posts, so there is nothing to discuss about it. The only thing that has changed since then is the reference of my addons has been deleted (they were free for information; <= this might avoid any false allegation), so yes I chose the word "censored" on purpose. But again this is the right, and the responsibility of administrators who claim to create a website about "resources". And my reaction about the question of bumping that thread has nothing to do with it.

The second point of my previous posts is that I've asked to be added to the credit of an addon since I've contributed for and, I think, helped the community. I've also proposed another solution which was to use another version of this addon for which I didn't participate. This way the censor policy could still apply. Everybody was happy living one's life in one's side. I don't see where the "bad" to say/request that. I said "bad" because I forgot the original expression used by the main developer of this website and I can't get it back since the post has been edited again.

I would like to say something about this method to edit a post after some reactions have been given. From the perspective of having an honest debate, this method is disgusted & repulsive. Last time I've been forced to made public some private conversation since I've been accused of not saying the truth and this was the only way I have to defend myself. I come back a few minutes and the previous post has totally been edited making my previous reply look like a none-sense and presenting me like a fool. And it happens again today with a post on XenForo and with a post on xfshowcase. This last post was about my request to be quoted in the credit (which is a normal thing for which any developer should not "miss the point"). The first reaction is "Its removed from the listing. I choose not to show it as a "featured" product for our site in this thread". Well ok, the addon has been deleted. That was not what I was asking... The addon is indeed deleted in the XenForo post(this one). I'm curious, I'm going to have a look on the website a few minutes later. I see my pseudo has been added in very little and in pink... What should I understand with this very strangely way to be added to the credit? Is this website is really about XenForo ressources ? What kind of administrators/developers would dare to do such a shameless thing? This is such stupid, I don't react. And I was right not to since the message has been edited, again, and my name pseudo is no more in the reference.

So Chris, since you seem to miss the point and you're reacted in public , I'm asking you: are you joking? Is this a way to behave? Come on, since the debate has taken place I've reacted quite politely and peacefully but this kind of behaviour is a shame and if you're really an administrator of this website (which I didn't know) you should really put some rules.
Cédric, I am certain you have a valid point. I just don't understand what it is. This is my fault, I think.

There's a lot of words for me to digest there with my small stupid mind :p

Can we start from the beginning?

This is my understanding (so far) of (some of) the points you have made.

We maintain a list of add-ons that we have installed at XFShowcase which is here: http://www.xfshowcase.com/threads/what-add-ons-does-xfshowcase-have-installed.36

In that list is Custom BB Code Manager which is listed as "by King Kovifor".

The only reason (and I mean the ONLY reason) that KingK's name is there and not yours is quite simply that is how it appears in the Resource Manager. Stew when creating the list basically copy and pasted the add-on details from the Resource Manager including the title and the author. As King K is the only listed author, that is why he is the only listed author in that thread. This absolutely hasn't been a conscious decision because the BB Code Manager absolutely wouldn't be where it is today without your hard work and effort.

With regards to Stew's decision to remove the item from the list completely... well... in all honestly I agree with him. We don't even use the add-on :) That list is purely there to list the add-ons we actively use on that site and right now we do not have a need for the custom BB Code manager. So the Custom BB Code Manager is being uninstalled.

Once we have a need for the Custom BB Code Manager we will update that list and credit you alongside KingK for the add-on. If we were going to continue using the add-on then we absolutely would update the attribution to include your name as that is what is deserved.
 
Its a shame you have to ruin an add-on, and having me remove it completely from our site, because of your nonsense.
That was not what I asked.

I don't see why your demanding you be added to the site credit or demanding he change to a different version.
I never ask to be add to the credit of this website. I've just asked to be added to the credit of this addon like King Kovifor quoted me in the presentation.

Not sure there is much point in giving away something that is publicly available.
Yes so... ?
 
So all this debate is about xFShowcase, right?
The same xFShowcase that actually runs modifications, resources, and add-ons as part of their forum so that anyone could see them in action?
The same xFShowcase where I can win something that is not publicly available for free?
Where do I have to go again?
xFShowcase.com

Written by a nonpartisan third party
 
The addon has been uninstalled after this conversation. I'm not the one who decided to put it on that list at the beginning. I'm not the one who ask you to uninstall it. I've already explained twice on this.

Now even if you didn't reply to my comments about the way of editing posts (I'm not taking of you), I hope you go it.
 
So all this debate is about xFShowcase, right?
The same xFShowcase that actually runs modifications, resources, and add-ons as part of their forum so that anyone could see them in action?
The same xFShowcase where I can win something that is not publicly available for free? Where do I have to go again?
xFShowcase.com

Written by a nonpartisan third party
Again nothing about this, except may be the way to bump a thread (see above) and the way to select these addons or to "uninstall" them.
 
I don't know anything about posts being edited. I only replied to the points in your post I understand. I will be happy to discuss other matters with you but I would need you to explain them again so I can understand them better.

We decided to install the BB Code Manager initially as we were going to have some custom BB Codes available. Right now we can't think of any BB Codes that are useful to us so the add-on was basically sitting on the site doing nothing. Hardly a great showcase if someone comes along, sees we have the BB Code Manager installed but not doing anything with it. It's the right thing to do to uninstall it. Regardless of this conversation, the add-on would have gotten uninstalled.

We review our list of add-ons regularly (bear in mind these are only the ones we have installed, we talk about and promote many other add-ons) and we will uninstall the ones from our site which we aren't using or aren't showcasing the add-on appropriately. It won't stop us from raving on about how good the add-on is elsewhere.
 
I don't know anything about posts being edited. I only replied to the points in your post I understand. I will be happy to discuss other matters with you but I would need you to explain them again so I can understand them better.
Sorry I've already explained given some examples (see the little pink edit) and there's nothing more to add.


We decided to install the BB Code Manager initially as we were going to have some custom BB Codes available.
When? After this conversation? Again I don't care if you install it or not, but your communication is a little confused about it.
 
Stewart, I would like to step in if you don't mind and say that it is best to:
1. End the argument here
2. Use the BBCode Manager's latest version (1.3.5.2m it is in the discussion somewhere) as it is an excellent addon. Trust me the amount of work and time Cedric has put into it is priceless. And the result marvelous.
3. Mention in the "What xfShowcase uses...." thread "BBCode Manager by KingKovifor and cclaerhout" and link to the post with the modification
4. Cedric, embrace what xfShowcase is doing, tthey arre providing a place where free and paid addons are both available for testing and first hand experience as well as a number of style. Many paid addon developers do not have a necessary place to test addons, whoever we can test those on xfShowcase. When an addon is free, anyone can download and test it but that isn't the case with xfShowcase.
5. Hug each other.
 
When? After this conversation? Again I don't care if you install it or not, but your communication is a little confused about it.

Does it matter anymore? I have explain, Chris has explained how and why it was listed as it was... Simple as that. We have removed the add-on due to DEMANDING your name being added. You better look through all the other posts talking about King K's add-on, and demand they be edited to include your name as well. Right? So, you get to doing that, stop posting in this thread, the world will continue to spin.

THIS ADD ON IS NO LONGER INSTALLED.
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I hope we can now move forward. Appreciate your time.
 
We had it installed a while ago with intention to use it. We review our installed add ons regularly. We have not used it yet so we have decided to remove it.

If we install it again we will absolutely ensure your name is against it as that is what is deserved.

Neither removing it nor not having your name against it was meant to cause offence. If it has then we are very sorry.
 
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