XF 2.4 general discussion, feedback, complaints, random off topic posts, etc.

xenforo isn't really a community.
It's a unthreaded threads chit-chat forum lacking almost any reasonable data structures with a photopost-like antiquated tabbed off gallery.
there is a massive lack of innovation.
If Xenforo really wants to forum only, it should retool as a development platform with a xenforo forum bolted on top of that. And let people innovate from the development platform.
With all the desctructiveness, ranting and negativity: Why on earth are you using XenForo and not something else? According to your posts it is a horrible product, created by horrible people.

The future is cloud only.
You really love to create drama constantly and again - as usually - from nothing, not only w/o any foundation but also against the official statements:

New license sales are still fine. Renewal sales are still fine. There’s no reason to change that other than the occasional necessity to increase prices.

What gives us that confidence is the strength of XenForo Cloud. This will never, in our current mindset and position, need to replace the self hosted model, but it has brought us a significant increase in income to sustain us beyond that model. XenForo Cloud typically accounts for around half of our income already.

So genuinely, we’re fine, and speculation to the contrary while appreciated, is just not accurate.
 
doubts the future is cloud based.

!remindme 10 years.

It is for sure true that Xenforo has no active plans to do away with self hosted Xenforo. And their current approach to cloud based Xenforo is friendly to a future for self hosted Xenforo.

If you zoom out further, admins wanting self hosting will significantly drop and the economics of self hosted xenforo with the rampant piracy abuse etc may preclude putting resources towards it.
 
!remindme 10 years.

It is for sure true that Xenforo has no active plans to do away with self hosted Xenforo. And their current approach to cloud based Xenforo is friendly to a future for self hosted Xenforo.

If you zoom out further, admins wanting self hosting will significantly drop and the economics of self hosted xenforo with the rampant piracy abuse etc may preclude putting resources towards it.
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I hope XF2.4 will never get released. XF3 FTW.
If I recall plan A was working towards release of v3 (inc new editor and new style) At some stage plan B was to release the new editor in 2.4 and new style in 3.0. Perhaps it has reverted to plan A. Or maybe not.
 
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