I have tried deindexing low quality pages like tags, members, thin content. Nothing had any effect.
XF 2.4 general discussion, feedback, complaints, random off topic posts, etc.
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Sal Collaziano
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Interesting...
Alpha1
Well-known member
SEO is getting hundreds of factors right. Its really welcome that they improved site speed, so that we can get this major factor right. Its too simplistic to think that site speed is the magic bullet. Compare the html of a XF page with a Reddit page. Reddit has a whole SEO team optimizing the stuff.
Similarly, if you use WordPress to publish content then you also want to use Yoast or RankMath for technical optimization and Schema. XF doesnt have stuff like that.
Content discovery, internal linking scheme, menu / site structure are also important things were XF can improve.
Mr Lucky
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Unlikely. I haven't seen any fanboys, or anyone saying XF can't change or wanting their community to die or being a problem.
Such steps seems to have worked well for us. (so far!)
Not a fanboy, i like change. At moment i have +170 addons.
And would prefer content discovery like on reddit.
Wing
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Literally every post over the past 5 pages from you, @smallwheels and I think users such as @Mendalla have been going against the grain of others explaining the dire enthusiasm expressed in this thread for modernizations, and seeking a new chapter of excitement for the XF brand. Its like you guys are totally okay with the current reality.
The writing is on the wall, and it is continuing to become more clear. Something needs to change to stop the bleeding. Call it dramatic, or sit here and say "but we would rather things be slow and less bugs"... the reality is, we dont want XF to die out.
CedricV
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This is exactly what I mean.
Mr Lucky
Well-known member
You have a vivid imagination to think that. There is plenty that can be improved or fixed. I have many live suggestions that I would love to see implemented, I can only apologise that they may not be the same as yours. That's life, I've learned it's always good to get used to having people thinking in a different way.
There is nothing to disagree about that for sure.
Chris2
Active member
I’ve tried that also, had several experts spend hours on the site trying to help. Had zero effects. However, the site has remained steady on other notable search engines, even gaining traffic/ranks. Not on Google, as they clearly don’t like forums right now and your only option is to cross your fingers and hope that on the next algorithm update, things may improve. 90% of the time though, it only gets worse…
The one update that did seem to improve things, Google caught on to their “error” pretty quickly. So on the next update, everything fell off a cliff. I hope the poor Google employee who accidentally gave my site a temporary boost in traffic didn’t get the axe
Suzanne O
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I think you can connect your account to reddit
Have a look at your acp under connected accounts.
Mendalla
Well-known member
Lets be accurate here, okay.
I am not against change. For instance, I actually trialed Themehouse's Feeds and would love to see something like that in Xenforo IF it can be done well and without breaking the existing functionality. I would be all over it, to be honest. All I am advocating for is change that is done with care and thought rather than just to say you did it or to follow some trend. A few well-done new features vs. going whole hog into something trendy and new only to produce something dripping with bugs and half-assed, half-baked features. Which, unfortunately, has happened with some software that I use.
I am also suggesting that my present site (which I do not own, only manage on behalf of the community) is not one that is going to benefit heavily from any changes given it is not a growth-focused site, just a community for people who left another that was shut down by its owner. It also exists precisely because of people who disliked FB groups and similar social media offerings so I am not going to turn around and make it into a social media site.
For future sites that I might undertake (I do have ideas), sure. I'd be all in with something different. I might not even use XF depending on what I see my needs as being. But I don't need much for my current site and, since I and my co-admin are paying the bills ourselves, any change has to reviewed with a budgetary lens. 3.0 does not, to my eye, offer much for the $$$ it will cost to redo our styling so I might not go there. So my mention of holding on 2.4.
Which is also why you're not going to hear me angrily denouncing lack of progress. For the community on whose behalf I am running this site, XF 2 is more than enough. We aren't even using a lot of the 2.2 and 2.3 features. So why would I push for dramatic changes that might only make it more difficult?
FTL
Well-known member
Well, you're making an assumption there. XF said they want to introduce "quality of life" features into 2.4 for users and staff alike, so it might actually make the software easier and more pleasant to use rather than more difficult. I therefore wouldn't judge it until it's released, or at least the HYSs.
It could be worse.
CedricV
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Please don’t compare a Renault and a Lamborghini.It could be worse.
Suzanne O
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If you added your magic to that though you'd have a good forum.It could be worse.
Think of the content over the looks.
My mate's forum for example https://www.bigfooty.com/forum
Has a lot of stuff on it.
It's not a social media site like reddit but it has discussions like what reddit do.
Mendalla
Well-known member
I'm not judging it but my experience is that the more dramatic a change, the more work it makes for IT. And on my site, I am IT. Just look at the mad scramble to fix add-ons after the changes in 2.3 (which had little impact on me, thank God). And that was not actually a big change, even though it was a breaking one for add-on builders. Just think what 3.0's overhaul of styling is going to be like. So changes like that require thought and care, not just "oo, shiny. Let's do it."Well, you're making an assumption there. XF said they want to introduce "quality of life" features into 2.4 for users and staff alike, so it might actually make the software easier and more pleasant to use rather than more difficult. I therefore wouldn't judge it until it's released, or at least the HYSs.
I love to see "quality of life" features for sure, but they are only improvements if they don't cause more work through bad design or broken implementation. So, I say it again, take the time to give me a few well-done, tested features rather than rushing out half-baked ones to meet perceived demand. IME, the software industry has become obsessed with pumping out "kewl nu featurez" rather than putting out useful ones. I would rather see XF buck that trend.
