XF 2.4 general discussion, feedback, complaints, random off topic posts, etc.

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Most announcements (such as releases) don’t need a discussion.

If we release say 2.3.4 and people have issues, we don’t want that thread flooded with posts when new threads, tickets or bug reports are most appropriate.

It also allows us to conveniently update them with additional posts like we sometimes do with patches or further information.
 
Fantastic news, I love that the team is following through with their announcement to commit to more regular releases even if it's smaller feature releases (although the editor upgrade is of course a pretty big one in of itself)

Looking forward to hearing about what else is to come :)
 
Chris D said:
We’re very much focusing on backwards compatibility with XF 2.4. This will be a smaller release with a focus on maintaining backwards compatibility.

In other words, an add-on compatible with 2.3 should be compatible with 2.4.

It should not represent double effort to be compatible with 2.3 and then 2.4. It should be the same.

As ever, it’s entirely up to you whether you wish to upgrade or not. 2.2 is a very fine point to stick with if there’s reasons you can’t upgrade.
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Thankyou for considering backwards compatibility implications for v2.4

I think it's a great move to introduce the new editor sooner, along with some other quality of life features.
 
One piece of feedback I have is that it's normal to look forward to updates & new features, but with Xenforo there are reasons not to. One reason is the 3rd party addon compatibility issue that others have mentioned, and another is that the UI overhaul sounds like it would require a lot of time on my part to change everything.

I have already spent a significant amount of time customizing my forum's styles, and based on what I read so far, I would have to redo a lot of it for the new UI changes. I already have the default blue, a grey, a dark, and a minimalist grey theme/style. If the only change was for me to set my grey theme as "light" and the dark theme as "dark", that wouldn't be a problem. I don't need or want to make a new version (light/dark) of any of my themes/styles.
 
Probably not the best place to post this but I hope I do not need to use proxy to record hotlinked image dimensions in 2.4. This bug report never got a label. This was definitely one of my favorite features of 2.3!
 
Chris D said:
Some of the things we’re in more of a planning and research phase at this point so we don’t have a set list of features aside from the editor.

But we have 3 devs that will be primarily working on this and a clear target for release and a commitment not to get too in the weeds with things so there isn’t a protracted development cycle.

I guess “low hanging fruit” is the best way of describing our ethos right now. It will be a smaller scale release.

We’re very serious about it being a shorter development cycle. We’re not even ruling out the possibility of 2.5 before 3.0. So rather than adding feature upon feature like we were guilty of with 2.3, things that aren’t appropriate for 2.4 that can’t be delivered at a relatively short notice could always be deferred (be that to 2.5 if that ends up being a thing, 3.0 if appropriate or even 3.1).
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Thanks for sharing the exciting news that 2.x will continue to receive shorter and more regular updates. It certainly makes our license intrinsically more valuable, and injects enthusiasm across the entire Xenforo ecosystem to have more to look forward to!

Just curious, was there anything that triggered this faster cadence behind the scenes? (Eg. You completed an optimization of your cloud platform that previously took up a dev, so you now have more dev resources?)

Also, is there a motif or theme behind this update so the community can focus our collective suggestions? Eg. XFMG, moderator and admin quality of life, statistics, low hanging features with front-end impact
 
MaximilianKohler said:
I have already spent a significant amount of time customizing my forum's styles, and based on what I read so far, I would have to redo a lot of it for the new UI changes. I already have the default blue, a grey, a dark, and a minimalist grey theme/style. If the only change was for me to set my grey theme as "light" and the dark theme as "dark", that wouldn't be a problem. I don't need or want to make a new version (light/dark) of any of my themes/styles.
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The style changes are remaining with 3.0 as I understand it from the announcement and this thread. 2.4 should still be using the current 2.x styling.

I am glad to hear about 2.4 myself. I really am not eager for 3.0 due to the effort and cost of redoing our style and being able to get the replacement editor on a 2.x release means my original plan of halting on the final 2.x release is more viable. We are a small site with no revenue stream beyond member (mostly admins) donations and, really, Xenforo 2 works very well for us.
 
Maybe you guys who are worried about what TipTap is should go and have a look at the website.
tiptap.dev

Tiptap - Dev Toolkit Editor Suite

Tiptap is a suite of content editing & real time collaboration tools. Build editor experiences like Notion in weeks, not years.
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Having a bit of a look at the site and it's awesome. Already love the features in it from what i've seen.
Reckon we'll be having fun with the whiteboard.
 
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Great news, looknig forward to seeing the new features and improvements. Thanks XF Team.
 
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