XF 2.4 general discussion, feedback, complaints, random off topic posts, etc.
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Suzanne O
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Yeah this!
philmckrackon
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Not me not core. As an addon, yes.
+1
Mendalla
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We had one on my writing sites at one time (lost it when they switched to new software) and, yeah, add-on. Seems like a frill rather than a core feature in my experience. I have not really missed it since it went away. And @Siropu has one out, IIRC.
Back on to 2.4, people are putting out wishlists but I am guessing (and hoping) there won't be much in it beyond the new editor. That alone seems like a big change and will generate some other changes in and of itself. I am not sure I want more big changes given this is supposed to retain backwards compatibility for add-ons and styles (other than ones that are impacted by the editor change, I guess). Maybe some new features that don't have a major impact but one big, dramatic change should be enough. Just getting that new editor without having to upgrade to 3.0 is a boon for me.
frm
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Drag and drop/rearrange (as I believe they said admin features are going to be addressed) replacing Display order would be a time saver and a very welcomed feature to order just about everything from categories to nodes and sub nodes to user banners and whatever else uses display order.
I mean Display order isn't difficult to understand, but you could easily save it as 10 instead of 100 and "lose it" for a bit, wasting time to reedit it, whereas you could've just physically moved it where you wanted it in the first place and it save.
DigitalPoint's Better Analytics is the first I've seen this in XF, so I'm going to take a guess that if the ability is already there, we'll see it somewhere in 2.4 for ACP features using Display order.
From the announcement that gives me hope: "XenForo 2.4 will focus on quality-of-life enhancements for admins"
I mean Display order isn't difficult to understand, but you could easily save it as 10 instead of 100 and "lose it" for a bit, wasting time to reedit it, whereas you could've just physically moved it where you wanted it in the first place and it save.
DigitalPoint's Better Analytics is the first I've seen this in XF, so I'm going to take a guess that if the ability is already there, we'll see it somewhere in 2.4 for ACP features using Display order.
![[DigitalPoint] Better Google Analytics](/community/data/resource_icons/8/8752.jpg?1653152083){kind=icon}
From the announcement that gives me hope: "XenForo 2.4 will focus on quality-of-life enhancements for admins"
I would really like to see the suggestions forum cleaned up - there are over 1,000 suggestions which is an absurd number.
Since most of them are not going to be implemented it will be great if XF staff can weed them down to those they think that are relevant.
The same for the bug reports forums, which have 649 bugs active.
In both cases I assume that many are already implemented/fixed/not relevant, so the housekeeping is needed.
Since most of them are not going to be implemented it will be great if XF staff can weed them down to those they think that are relevant.
The same for the bug reports forums, which have 649 bugs active.
In both cases I assume that many are already implemented/fixed/not relevant, so the housekeeping is needed.
lucasz12
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I wonder why this script has been so neglected. There should be at least 2 major feature updates per year and several security updates. The traditional forum model is obsolete; I know this because I created one, sent over 40k visitors, and people would register, search for what they wanted, and leave. Many didn't even understand how to search within the forum. That's why I insist that this model is outdated. I don't doubt it works for the older generation, but the new ones don't get it. If this project doesn't start implementing major changes, it will DIE for sure. It may not happen soon, but as new generations take control of the internet and those who currently use forums fade away, this will disappear. Having 2 or 3 updated forum view modes is not a bad idea, especially because users can choose to stick with the traditional forum mode if they prefer that
Forsaken
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Thank you for your expert opinion on software development, where your expertise as a top tech executive at FAANG has trained you to be an expert in and of all things tech.
zappaDPJ
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Sim
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The average age of new members on one of my sites is around 18 years old - with plenty of kids as young as 13 (and some younger who we have to ban!) using the site. Plenty of people seem to get it just fine.
The reason people aren't using forums is not because forums are an outdated model - it's just there are other, different platforms that people can use for sharing information which didn't exist before.
That's not a reason for forums to change to try and be more like those other platforms - all you'd achieve then is to have yet another platform doing exactly the same thing with even more competition.
Forums offer a lot of features and benefits that social media platforms don't and can't offer - this is their USP that makes them still perfectly viable in my opinion.
If people can't work out how to search, then it seems like you have a UI issue.
This chart of daily active users on another one of my sites from the past 12 months doesn't seem to indicate that forums are dying?
By the way - that site runs XF 1.5 ... which was released over 9 years ago.
It's not the pace of software updates that is killing forums - it's sites with no valuable content and a weak community or poor moderation that are killing themselves.
Mendalla
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In my experience in IT, the reason software needs several security updates per year is the two major feature updates per year. A slower pace on the feature updates with proper QA and you might not need all those security updates.
Implementing permissions across multiple user groups
Having logged in to quite a few installations to resolve permission issues, it's clear that a lot of people haven't quite grasped the concept. So here are a few pointers: 1. All members should have the Registered user group as their primary...
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MentaL
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True.
lucasz12
Member
I think we are not targeting the same audience. In my case, I have people asking where they can find the content I'm promoting when it's as simple as searching the forum. They barely comment, and even less so share anything. If you send more than 50k visitors to watch a specific episode of something, the last thing they care about is becoming part of the forum, and they don't understand how to use it. I'm not saying the forum format should change, just that offering alternatives wouldn't be a bad idea—at least 2 more modern options. I'm not talking about a social media format, since you would buy a social media script for that.
frm
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Just to clarify as I've never had someone in two different groups with different values of the same permission.
In this example, I'd have them in Group A or Group B, but not both:
Are you saying that if Group A has an editing time limit of 10 minutes and Group B has one of 20 minutes, and a member is in both, is it cumulative as in a total of 30 minutes,
Or, what I thought due to "never", does the greater of the two apply (Group B with 20 minutes)?
Cumulative - increasing or increased in quantity, degree, or force by successive additions.
