XenForo 2.0 Discussion

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@ENF
The danger is clearly there. It's the moderator's duty to channelise that somehow.
But if many users just don't like the "difficult" way to post in forums, especially posting images (where images are relevant), you will get less and less content at all. That's the problem.
 
PyroM said:
@ENF
The danger is clearly there. It's the moderator's duty to channelise that somehow.
But if many users just don't like the "difficult" way to post in forums, especially posting images (where images are relevant), you will get less and less content at all. That's the problem.
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And then you have no users to worry about if it is too hard.

Ease of posting and high engagement in content. It might be spammy but it works for fb and Twitter.

Now share this post with your loved ones, type amen or 7 years bad luck.
 
Neutral Singh said:
With the advent of social media, new age members/posters simply love to perform a single click operation!

Most of my decade old members, simply hate to start a new thread, the way it is set-up in forums... they are so much addicted to copy paste a link on a box and it populates itself with content including images just like on Facebook, press publish and boom you are done!

The saving grace for forums is that the content on social media websites is of perishable nature and impossible to retrieve later on for a future reference..

Going forward, in xF 2.0, i would love to see a option to create content on the fly, all in a one step! where you don't have to venture through a big list of forums to go through an appropriate forum.

Something like:

Right at Forum Home > Create New thread > Opens a popup > Choose a thread prefix (drop-down) > Choose an appropriate forum (drop-down) > Thread heading > Type in the content > Publish > Done!

And, i would also love to see an option to move the forums/sub-forums in the sidebar. Remove the age-old redundant maze of forums/sub-forums off the forum home, to make room for content on the forum page.

More drag and drop functionality to create a forum home to suit your taste.

@Chris D @Mike @Kier
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I think you should suggest it in the suggestions forum
 
Mr Lucky said:
I don't think you don't need simplicity of posting to get junk replies.
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Nope. We have a hard enough time with junk already. Well, that's not completely true... But it would be easy for it to increase if posting is further simplified.

I suppose it depends on the target audience...
 
ENF said:
This may work for some - but the simplicity of posting usually will wind up with the same junk replies that aren't worth much on FB or Twitter. I see FB and Twitter posting as a place for quick comments and short replies as where a traditional forum is more for discussion with real writing and not the mindless dribble you seen on social networking sites.
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Sorry, if i am missing your point. I am talking about Quick Thread at Forum Home in One Step. How simplicity in posting a new thread would invite junk replies or mindless dribble? :confused: IMHO only a junk topic would invite junk replies and i am not talking about quick replies anyways.

Thank you
 
What are the key things we know for sure will happen with xF 2.0?

- Easier for 3rd party developers
- New Design
- anything else confirmed?
 
A generic framework for processing payments and creating purchasable items:
Mike said:
To give an example using a new system, we're currently spending time building a generic payment framework. This is designed not only to allow different payment processors (not just PayPal) but also to be a framework to make it easy for new "purchasable" elements to be added easily (not just user upgrades). A system like this benefits the core system, but also enables new add-ons to be developed more easily. Without this, developers may discount an idea that requires payment processing because of the extra legwork required.
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The thread that quote originates from is pretty much the source of the best bits of information :)
 
Digital Doctor said:
Sounds like it would be a great addon.
Xenforo core ? No wonder it is taking so long.
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Improvements like this do take a period of time, but then implementing them exactly the same as they were in XF1 also takes time. Bear in mind we already have a payment system (PayPal) and we already have a purchasable item type (User Upgrades) so this functionality needed to exist in one way or another; it just so happens we decided to implement it in such a way that, although admittedly took a small amount of time longer, is much more flexible to allow us and third party developers to add additional payment providers and additional purchasable types in the future.
 
Sounds like Xenforo is baking in
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/xen-product-manager.3569/ ?
or at least parts of it.

I think Xen-Product Manager is deserving of becoming it's own official addon. I can see a generic payment framework being a part of that addon.

Don't get me wrong. I think the payment frameworks is a great idea. I certainly want it. But I guess I feel I would expect to have to purchase a well supported "Shop" (Product Manager) official addon.
 
XenProductManager needs quite a bit of work, in my opinion at least before it'd be something sold as an official product (assuming that would happen) as it lacks even the most basic of statistics (even seeing how many times product X has sold)
 
Digital Doctor said:
Sounds like Xenforo is baking in
https://xenforo.com/community/resources/xen-product-manager.3569/ ?
or at least parts of it.
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That couldn't be further away from the intention here. XPM will not becoming an official add on.

Digital Doctor said:
I can see a generic payment framework being a part of that addon.
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Technically, an add-on such Xen Product Manager would benefit from the type of system we've implemented.

And that's the point. Any add on or feature that has a purchasable element such as a product, user upgrade, advertising, paying to feature certain content; whatever people can think of, can benefit from the code which we've already built.

XF 2.0 includes more than one payment provider which is certainly new but it only supports user upgrades in terms of purchasable items. Anything else will be added by add ons.

I can assure you, however, the addition of this feature, (which we needed to implement anyway for user upgrades), hasn't been the cause of "it taking so long" as you put it.
 
A generic payment framework is certainly one very strong reason for me to consider XF2. A very strong selling point.
Think about the possibilities that addon developers will have with this. Think about how easy it will be for payment service providers to add support. Or consider how easy it will be to hire a developer to build a function to sell anything on your site or accept donations.
 
Digital Doctor said:
Sounds like it would be a great addon.
Xenforo core ? No wonder it is taking so long.
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I don't see it that way. Sure it'll take longer but its an investment of time into the developer ecosystem really. Not to mention it will be the start of many things which can compete against IPB Commerce :)

Would be interested to see and play with it once released for sure.
 
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