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Terms and Rules Update

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by Lisa, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    Just me being nosy, so feel free to tell me to shut up :D Just curious what's changed, since the rules seem a pretty logical choice to me and I can't (off the top of my head) see anything different :)
     
  2. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

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    The providers of this service ("we") are not responsible for the content of any messages posted. Messages posted express the views of their author only.

    You agree to not use this service to post any material which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violates any laws.

    We reserve the rights to remove or modify any messages posted for any reason.

    All information or content you submit or upload may be reviewed by staff members. Do not submit any content or information that you consider to be private or confidential.


    New
    The providers ("we", "us", "our") of this website ("Service") are not responsible for any user-generated content ("Content"). Content posted express the views of their author only.

    You agree to not use the Service to post any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws ("Guidelines"). You agree to not use the Service to post any Content which links to material that violates our Guidelines.

    We reserve the rights to remove or modify any Content posted for any reason without explanation. Requests for Content to be removed or modified will be undertaken only at our discretion. We reserve the right to take action against any account with the service at any time.

    You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.

    All Content you submit or upload may be reviewed by staff members. Do not submit any Content that you consider to be private or confidential.

    These terms may be changed at any time without notice.

    If you do not agree with these terms, please do not register or use this Service. If you wish to close your account, please contact us.
     
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  3. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    "You are granting us with a non-exclusive, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service."

    Does Content include add-ons or other "copyrighted" code people upload here? Has this come about because Floris removed all of the XenFans content from here?
     
  4. Daniel Thomann

    Daniel Thomann Active Member

  5. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    Thanks Brogan :)
     
  6. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

  7. Daniel Thomann

    Daniel Thomann Active Member

    Yeah I wondered about that, too.. on the other hand.. Is it really a win for xenForo to keep outdated addons here? probabbly it's both ;)
     
  8. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    No connection to XenFans or anything like that. It's an update to the default XenForo rules, really to just give admins a little bit more control over the content provided and reserve additional rights -- the concepts in that Post Ownership thread are related/similar to the changes made. Nothing untoward about it.

    We don't have intention of keeping add-ons around that people don't want to keep, though I would discourage people from removing their add-ons if they don't want to maintain them. At least open source (BSD) the code and/or let someone else pick it up.
     
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  9. Daniel Thomann

    Daniel Thomann Active Member

    Thanks.. but mike...
    Brogan won't be happy to see you posting here ^^
     
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  10. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    You shouldn't be here :p
     
  11. erich37

    erich37 Well-Known Member

    1)
    the new text refers to "Guidelines".
    where to see those "Guidelines" ?

    2)
    Can we also have a link for "Privacy Policy" for our own forums ?

    Thanks.
     
  12. Mancunian

    Mancunian Member

    Yes I agree- the reference to "Guidelines" is vague and later refers to "our Guidelines"...
     
  13. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    The XenForo privacy policy is here: http://xenforo.com/privacy-policy/

    Generally it's up to each site owner to create their own.
     
  14. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    Guidelines is a term that is defined in the terms and rules text. The first reference (in parentheses) is where it's defined. Same with Service, Content, etc.
     
  15. Mancunian

    Mancunian Member

    Mike - but it then states:
    Where are "our guidelines" defined?

    It is confusing because the definition of a Guideline is defined as
    A law is NOT a Guideline...

    A guideline is not mandatory and not enforced
    A law on the other hand is enforced.
     
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  16. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    That's not how you read it - the entire list of things are the Guidelines. Regardless, I've tweaked it. It means the same thing but is clearer.
     
  17. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Guidelines in this context relates to the items listed in the preceding sentence.

    Edit: Birthday ninja'ed!
     
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  18. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    Can you please explain this further? Are you saying you can (we grant you permission) to post derivatives of other peoples resources?
     
  19. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    My guess is that (using your work as an example) - if you posted a smiley pack, they could then include that smiley pack in the core product.

    I've bolded the bit which made me think that, though the underlined bit made me think on it too.
     
  20. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    That's the reason I asked above about their definition of "Content". I'm fairly sure it wasn't meant to imply what it does but I think it needs making clearer.
     

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