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XF 1.1 Member is moderated - why? How undo?

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting and Problems' started by Morgain, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. Morgain

    Morgain Well-Known Member

    I have a member who appears on moderation - this is something I have never used so no idea why.
    On her permissions she shows as grey on moderation rules.
    What do I do to lift the moderation please?
     
  2. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Check the permissions for the user and all groups they are a member of.

    Ensure Follow message moderation rules is Allow in at least one and Never in none.
     
  3. Morgain

    Morgain Well-Known Member

    Thank you as always.

    So Follow message moderation rules actually means NOT moderated ... not intuitive!
     
  4. Ingenious

    Ingenious Well-Known Member

    I think it means "follow message moderation rules" which in the case of most forums/permissions is NOT to be moderated (so the rule IS being followed by not moderating). Whereas set it to "NO" or "NEVER" and they can never follow moderation rules either way, which thus defaults to always being moderated. It caught me out too :)
     
  5. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    Ingenious is correct. It mostly has to be written that way as a "yes" answer is always "more permissions"/better than a no answer, so we can't do "always moderate" or anything like that.
     
  6. VtoX

    VtoX Member

    I agree. Very confusing.
     
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  7. Rob

    Rob Well-Known Member

    If I set a user to "follow message moderation rules" to "never" does this effective put everything they post into moderation? Thats what I am trying to achieve, would that be the correct way? I dont want to handle this with usergroups since it's just the one user I need to apply this to.
     
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  8. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Correct.
     
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  9. Martok

    Martok Well-Known Member

    It's worth considering setting up a user group for this. I have a "Naughty Step" user group that I can put misbehaving members in. Their posts are moderated (using Never to override the Allow in the Registered group). I have also set various other permissions to Never, such as editing posts, changing avatar, changing signature etc. This prevents them from having a huff when they find they are in moderation and then being destructive. The beauty of having a user group for this is that I can easily add a misbehaving member with one click and then have all of these permissions apply to them too. You can't do this so easily by editing an individual user.
     
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  10. Rob

    Rob Well-Known Member

    If I find myself having to do this again then I'll make a group for it :p
     
  11. Steve Freides

    Steve Freides Active Member

    Just found this thread.

    I, too, have a group for this, "Manual Approval Required For All Posts" and I just add people to that as needed. Same functionality also, by setting the group's Follow Message Moderation Rules to Never.

    I would, however, like to be able to configure the actual message moderation rules - is that an option, or available via an add-on?

    Specifically, I would like to try having any _post_ containing a URL be placed into the moderation queue.

    Thanks in advance.

    -S-
     
  12. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    The general approach to that is to use "spam phrases" to pick up something like /http/i . Note that this may be more wide ranging than you're wanting, as it will apply to conversations as well (which don't support moderation, so will be blocked). This is fitting with it's design as an anti-spam tool.

    Anything else is likely to require custom development/an add-on.
     
  13. Steve Freides

    Steve Freides Active Member

    @Mike,

    I confess I can't make this work. I have a test message - I change something in the ACP, save my work, go to the tab with the test message and refresh the browser window. Adding something as a spam phrase doesn't seem to do anything at all. I also tried with a new post of mine - again, no result. This procedure worked fine with changing words in censoring (to the extent that it does and doesn't do everything I need, of course).

    I didn't try it with "http:" but rather with the domain name I am trying to block. I tried

    domainname
    domainname.com

    and all combinations with leading and trailing "/" and "*" - what am I missing here?

    I did change the number of posts to check to 10000 (10k) so that my posts would still be checked.

    I also you and the example in the ACP using "/i" at the end - what does this mean, and what does "regular expression" mean in this context?

    Thank you again in advance for your assistance.

    -S-
     
  14. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    I bet one of the spam addons does what you want !
     
  15. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    My approach was making it a regular expression so it matches partial words. By default, it will only match full words. If you're trying to block a particular domain name, use:
    Code:
    /domainname/i
    It may be worth testing using a fresh account to take variables out of the equation. For example, there's a permission to bypass spam checking -- it's possible your admin has that set.
     
  16. Steve Freides

    Steve Freides Active Member

    I am my admin.

    -S-
     
  17. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    I meant your (admin) account/user, in comparison to a fresh, new user account.
     
  18. ibnesayeed

    ibnesayeed Well-Known Member

    I think, "Follow message moderation rules" should be rephrased in a way that makes it more obvious to understand. I am not saying it is wrong, but a bit counter-intuitive. :)
     
  19. Steve Freides

    Steve Freides Active Member

    I just wish those rules could be customized.

    I will experiment with a new account - I have a test account I use for these purposes, has no or very few messages posted from it.

    -S-
     

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