JadedHeart
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I love it!!! Is it for real?
Edit: I meant "Discouraged", my "a" sticks sometimes.
Edit: I meant "Discouraged", my "a" sticks sometimes.
As far as I understand, the similar add-on created for other forum software solutions is extremely popular so all Mike & Kier have done is remove the need for a) someone to code it and b) forum owners to install it.
There's nothing unprofessional about the feature being included into the core. This would be saying the banned usergroup feature (group) is unprofessional, block IP setting is unprofessional, banned e-mail addresses are unprofessional.
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nick said:so the fact that it's a popular feature really isn't a basis for including it.
No it's not.If miserable users is a default feature in XF!!
What does that have to do with running a forum? Unless running the forum is your profession? I don't understand the use of "professional" in this argument. Very few of these (us) monkeys are professional forum operators.unprofessional [...] unprofessional [...] professional [...] professional
It has nothing to do with how we choose to run the forum. It's about the product. The product is expected to be a professional product. If I wanted a slipshod product and had little to no expectations, I'd have a teenage-codemonkey whip me up a forum in a few hours.What does that have to do with running a forum? Unless running the forum is your profession? I don't understand the use of "professional" in this argument. Very few of these (us) monkeys are professional forum operators.
Do you consider this "slipshod"?If I wanted a slipshod product...
That would be between Paul and the admins of this site.On another note, I know the creator of the vB mod was claiming that he was Discouraged prior to the Xenforo Beta Release.
Have the claims been validated?
I had just hoped that perhaps the way XenForo would convince its trolls to go elsewhere would be more sophisticated than the ham fisted methods of years past. For software that is supposed to be so much "better", I'm suprised this feature made it in. Just that I expected something better, something more professional.The XenForo 'discourager', in the same way as 'Miserable Users', to which it clearly owes its existence is not supposed to be a way for site staff to 'tease' users. It has a very simple purpose, which is to convince trolling users to go elsewhere because of perceived ongoing technical problems with the site.
It's softer an more subtle than a ban, which has a very obvious and immediate effect on the offending user, who may respond to the ban by simply registering another account. As such, it is just another tool in the armoury for site administrators to use, and judging by the popularity of 'Miserable Users', a popular one at that.
Arguments that development time was wasted on producing this feature are frankly ridiculous. I wrote the code to support the discourager in a little more than an hour.
If you don't like it, don't use it. Others will, and it is for their convenience that the feature exists. I shall say no more on the matter.
Unfortunately most trolls don't understand any other method and banning them outright is not the way to handle them, they just come back.I had just hoped that perhaps the way XenForo would convince its trolls to go elsewhere would be more sophisticated than the ham fisted methods of years past.
Do you have better suggestion on how to "convince its trolls to go elsewhere"?Just that I expected something better, something more professional.
Ok folks your bafflement, surprise, and disgust is duly noted.
The feature is there, it's not going anywhere, and you don't have to use it if you don't like it.
Move along now.
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