JadedHeart
Member
I love it!!! Is it for real?
Edit: I meant "Discouraged", my "a" sticks sometimes.
Edit: I meant "Discouraged", my "a" sticks sometimes.
Why thank you Shelby, so nice to see you again, as well.Peggy, I'm so glad you popped up again. You just reminded me of a missing feature you've taught me about in the past. The ignore feature.
I find it odd that the developers spent time and resources adding this feature into the Beta and not an easy way of adding new BB Codes or the ability to upload Smilies or other features I'd consider fundamental/basic to forum administration. This was clearly a pet project, which is fine, but seems to go against the entire philosophy of keeping things simple.
The XenForo 'discourager', in the same way as 'Miserable Users', to which it clearly owes its existence is not supposed to be a way for site staff to 'tease' users.
I wrote the code to support the discourager in a little more than an hour.
If you don't like it, don't use it. Others will, and it is for their convenience that the feature exists. I shall say no more on the matter.
Um. I don't think so, the majority of users want to come back to the forum, and troll. So Discouraged is a GREAT feature to have. GREAT!A ban is a ban. A temporary ban is a temporary ban. But what is this? Why would anyone (professional) want to torment an unwanted user in hopes to have them leave the forum, rather than banning them: the sure-fire way of dealing with the problem? The only answer I have is that they are 1) unprofessional and 2) immature, doing it for entertainment.
THANKS!ACP -> Options -> Visitor Discouragement
Or, if you'd just prefer the URL: domain.com/admin.php?options/list/discourager
Yeah. My moderators have discouraged users before. They were doing it when I completely forgot the existence of that feature. It wasn't until I was on some other forum chilling and this guy hit me up telling me he couldn't post, I went to investigate and could not figure out why he couldn't post. It took me awhile to realize a moderator discouraged him lmaooooo. So yeah they can definitely use it. They discouraged him each time he created a new account instead of banning him. I'm only just now using it, several months later.is it possible to prevent non-super Admins to have the ability to discourage?
Crank it up! Increase the values.I discouraged someone AND HE IS STILL POSTING LMAOO WTF???
By that logic, I should be able to go to the list of add-ons on vBulletin.org, sorted by most installs, and expect to see the top modifications included in XenForo. Such is obviously not the case, so the fact that it's a popular feature really isn't a basis for including it.
Now, I'm not trying to startle the bees in the hive, so to speak, but I just feel that the way this feature attempts to achieve its intended purpose is highly unprofessional and lacks all tact. The features you mentioned above are not unprofessional, because they are clean-cut and "cut right to the chase" by simply doing what they're intended to do: keep unwanted users out. The "discouraged users" feature, on the other hand, goes around the issue by mocking and teasing the user in hopes that they give up. There's a difference between keeping a user out and annoying them to the point where they give up. One is professional, the latter is not.
If my cousin who has a key to my house comes in everyday and carelessly trashes the place, leaving it in shambles, I'd want them out. I'm not going to build a maze around my property in hopes that they get frustrated and leave. I'm going to change my locks so their key no longer works.
Childish features don't belong in what is a professional, efficient product. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying that I'm going to boycott XenForo now because of this one feature; I'm merely noting that I was surprised to see such a controversial feature implemented.
Oh yeah forgot about that. +1Crank it up! Increase the values.
Now, I'm not trying to startle the bees in the hive, so to speak, but I just feel that the way this feature attempts to achieve its intended purpose is highly unprofessional and lacks all tact. The features you mentioned above are not unprofessional, because they are clean-cut and "cut right to the chase" by simply doing what they're intended to do: keep unwanted users out. The "discouraged users" feature, on the other hand, goes around the issue by mocking and teasing the user in hopes that they give up. There's a difference between keeping a user out and annoying them to the point where they give up. One is professional, the latter is not.
If my cousin who has a key to my house comes in everyday and carelessly trashes the place, leaving it in shambles, I'd want them out. I'm not going to build a maze around my property in hopes that they get frustrated and leave. I'm going to change my locks so their key no longer works.
Childish features don't belong in what is a professional, efficient product. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying that I'm going to boycott XenForo now because of this one feature; I'm merely noting that I was surprised to see such a controversial feature implemented.
Maybe you should start charging a verification fee during sign up to "discourage" potential trouble makers, just like what a certain showbiz and media website did with it's forums at one point!Extreme situations call for extreme measures. That's how this feature should be used - to get rid of extremely annoying users only. I had a particular user on my VB forum whom routinely insulted others, flamed my site and its users through his blog, etc. I warned him many times, temp banned him, and eventually perma-banned him. He kept coming back under a new username/IP. Reality is, you can't simply "take the key away" from these people. It just doesn't work like that.
If your cousin kept coming back to your house by breaking in - would you eventually go to extreme measures to keep him out? I bet you would!
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