XF 2.4 general discussion, feedback, complaints, random off topic posts, etc.

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I think the difference in how a link can be used in a discussion is pretty clear. I assume that in the second case, you'd hardly get banned or restricted for it.
 
cdub said:
Well do you allow people to just sign up and post links on your board?
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Sure.
cdub said:
It's basically spamming.
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No, it is called WorldWideWeb. Links are constituting the "Web" part. If you don't allow links you are not part of the web but try to create a closed system. If you understand any link as "spam" you clearly lack basic understanding of the internet.
 
In my case I wrote a really long, helpful answer and suggested further information could be found here, and linked my site. I'd been doing that for years on Quora. The link was relevant to the specific question and the answer (ie a certain article on my site). The one that got me banned was a short answer with a link! So yes I think the type of post with the link makes a difference. Mine weren't affiliate links. Despite appealing and telling them I'd been posting on there for years and given some in depth answers it was rejected and a blanket ban. Makes no difference though, I just opened a new account with a different email to add my backlink back in my profile and won't bother answering questions again!
 
As said by others, links are part of the web. I want people posting links that are useful and relevant to the discussions, esp. links to sources for news and things like that. What I don't want are garbage spam links (which is what most affiliate links are) and people who have posted those in the past have had them edited out of their posts and received bans.
 
I'm not entirely sure what happened or if the post was removed, but someone had shared a link to a recent lawsuit involving two XenForo members - Kier and Ashley - which suggested there may be some lingering tension between them. From what I remember skimming (though I can’t find the link now), it looked like Ashley had taken actions that Kier disagreed with.

What stood out to me was that Ashley appeared to still hold some ownership in XenForo. If that's true - and possibly Mike as well - it could explain why progress is slow and customers are being dragged along in the process. If Kier, Chris, and the current team are working hard to grow the company, it wouldn’t make much sense for former owners - especially ones involved in a legal dispute - to retain a stake. Why would the current leadership be motivated to build up a product when those they’ve had serious conflict with could still profit from their efforts? In that case, it might be cleaner and more strategic for Kier and Chris to start fresh with a new venture. Just my two cents - and again, I wish I could find that link.
 
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I'm not entirely sure what happened or if the post was removed, but someone had shared a link to a recent lawsuit involving two XenForo members - Kier and Ashley - which suggested there may be some lingering tension between them. From what I remember skimming (though I can’t find the link now), it looked like Ashley had taken actions that Kier disagreed with.

What stood out to me was that Ashley appeared to still hold some ownership in XenForo. If that's true - and possibly Mike as well - it could explain why progress is slow and customers are being dragged along in the process. If Kier, Chris, and the current team are working hard to grow the company, it wouldn’t make much sense for former owners - especially ones involved in a legal dispute - to retain a stake. Why would the current leadership be motivated to build up a product when those they’ve had serious conflict with could still profit from their efforts? In that case, it might be cleaner and more strategic for Kier and Chris to start fresh with a new venture. Just my two cents - and again, I wish I could find that link.
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Jesus.... it wasn't a lawsuit. :rolleyes: I remember seeing it and it doesn't have any bearing on 2025 as that happened in 2019. You can google up Ashley's name and find the documents yourself.
 
ENF said:
Jesus.... it wasn't a lawsuit. :rolleyes: I remember seeing it and it doesn't have any bearing on 2025 as that happened in 2019. You can google up Ashley's name and find the documents yourself.
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I stand corrected it was a legal case involving an unfair dismissal claim, not a lawsuit in the traditional sense.

That said, when you say it doesn’t have any bearing on 2025, I have to ask - do you know if the two individuals who left - Mike and Ashley, with Ashley reportedly leaving on bad terms - still retain any ownership in XenForo? If they do, then I’d argue it absolutely does have bearing on 2025, for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Why would the current team - the ones actively building and supporting the product - continue putting in the work if it ultimately increases the value for two former/current owners, one of whom filed a legal claim against the company? That dynamic could very well explain some of the hesitation or stagnation we’re seeing.

There have to be reasons behind the ongoing delays and lack of communication. We’ve all heard the excuse that "communicating takes time away from development," yet right now, we’re seeing neither - no real development progress and no meaningful communication.
 
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