Mightn’t that mean bugs that were viable for a fix have been fixed?
At least the system is transparent, ie nobody is denying there may be bugs.
Probably most suggestions have been made and as people have learned that they are not implemented anyway and bugs are not respondet to it makes no sense posting there as a consequence - just a waste of time. Maintainece wout be the key to get things more active again and - not the last - regular releases. Here we go again.
So for many bugs there was no possibility to look into them for several years...
I did not experience them as I have not been running my forum for very long but now I miss them, too.
No, the ones tagged as "future fix" do have their own forum - currently 16:
xenforo.com
I totally agree that XF does run smoothly day in day out. But this makes me wonder even more why there is such a high payload of bug reports that nobody had even a look at. Many of them may turn out to not even be bugs. The immens amount of open, unanswered reports creates a bad image and leaves people out in the cold - people that pay for support and updates, so are actually paying customers. I myself reported i.e. a somewhat strange behaviour in terms of http-response codes that I think may be wrong (and with a negative impact for SEO as well). Not the end of the world, not over-dramatic but also not difficult to answer - a 5-10 minute job I'd say:
I said that before.
Personally, I'd neither bug reports nor feature requests categorize as "complaints". Both are in principle positive: A sign of engagement of the users with the product. Some may be ill-directed, not feasible or desirable to implement or not bugs but lack of understanding or misconfiguration.
Which software companies are we talking about here? My experience with the software industry as a whole is that bug-free software is a pipedream and the bigger the company, the worse it gets. Every bug fixed comes with new bugs caused by the patch. And features? Most companies add the features they think you want, usually the ones that generate marketing hype or otherwise benefit them, and then maybe implement a few user suggestions along the way. Look at the current AI mess.
We are going off topic here and I can't tell names - but this is from personal experience working with software development teams in dozens of companies over the years. Zero-bug is a team approach and goal, so it works best bottom up, based on a team decision and it may scale to company level with more or even all teams making this decision. Obviously it needs responsibility areas for each team and it needs very good developers, else it won't work. It does not work at all as a top down decision by management. For reasons of motivation but as a starter b/c management would except in very rare cases not make a decision like that as they typically lack understanding and desire features, features and more features.
That's a given.
That's true as well.
That's untrue. This only happens if you neglected craftmanship standards like documentation, automated tests with high coverage, CI/CD and continuous refactoring for ages and thus live in an undocumented and fragile legacy hell where no one dares to touch anything as whatever you touch will break and whatever you change will break other parts of the software.
It is, no doubt. As has been written before by me and others.
Sad for you that you seem never to have worked in a company with really good high quality engineering culture in terms of software development. Those are rare, but once you've seen how smooth things can become you start to wonder why. Most seem to fear the effort and investment to get there, starting from the mess they created over years and many have absolutely no sense for or understanding of quality.
In which we’re seeing less and less engagement by the year here, especially with enthusiast tweaks and customization
Indeed, that hasn’t gone unnoticed.
There’s never been a time in XF history where it’s this quiet. Regardless of stability tbh.
The 1.x days were a different - and honestly, a much better - time. A lot has changed since then, and not for the better. While it’s true that a lack of development and communication has played a role in the quietness around here, the broader decline of forums in general is just as much a factor.
This is certainly me at this point. I am not really even that excited for 2.4. In fact, I sometimes wonder if I should have bothered with 2.3. 2.2 was the last version whose features we have really made good use of. So there's really not much for me to talk about. I mostly come by for news on 2.4 (of which there is little to none) and to check for updates on my few add-ons.
