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Xenforo Review by Forum-Software.org

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by DRE, Nov 26, 2012.

  1. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    Couple things I've noticed in this review of xenforo: http://www.forum-software.org/xenforo/review

    Xenforo was rated 5/5 stars, great, but it says Xenforo doesn't have the following:

    Topic Tags: Available as an addon called Tinhte Xentag
    Related Threads: Available as an addon called: Similar Thread for Xenforo and View More Thread Same Subforum
    Detect Duplicate Threads: Available as an addon called: Similar Threads Check (Google)
    Spell Checker - Automatically available in most browsers.
    Post by Email - Apparently no forum softwares use this. Suggestions on how to make one has been posted in this thread.
    Export Private Messages
    Abnormal Behavior Detection
    Backup Database
    Prune Database
    Restore Database

    Which addons do we have that covers what's missing?

    They rated ease of plugin installation very low but Add-On Installer by Chris Deeming solves this.
  2. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    Spell checker? What browser did they test with? Internet Explorer? Firefox and Chrome have a spell check. I don't think it's necessary these days.

    Post by Email? Don't they mean Watched Threads?


    Should be core IMHO. Not necessarily my implementation, but a XenForo written core feature and that's as a bare minimum. They should also consider an RM API that will allow you to browse and download from your own Admin panel.
  3. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    I think Spell Check would be cool. That would require Xenforo to update or change TinyMCE and I don't think TinyMCE has a Spell Checker.

    Yeah I thought of your addon installer when I saw that but it's not core. Just like you said, it should be.

    Post from eMail... that's not Watched Threads. Like your addon installer, Post from eMail is a feature that's also available in Wordpress.
  4. Jake Bunce

    Jake Bunce XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Do any forums have this? I have seen this requested many times over the years for both vB and XF. IMO it's not a forum feature. Replying by email is more of a list serve idea. Plus implementing such a feature requires a dedicated server since it involves interaction with the mail server.
  5. yessir

    yessir Active Member

    You don't need a dedicated to do post by mail jsyk.

    You just need a php script called by cron that can check mail, and parse it.
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  6. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    Which addons do we have that covers what's missing?


    maybe this: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/similar-thread-for-xenforo.30646/

    Good point.
    Addon installation for Xenforo is super retro. FTP isn't the way forward.
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  7. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    vBulletin had an addon.
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  8. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

  9. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Heh realy?
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  10. Dinh Thanh

    Dinh Thanh Well-Known Member

    Yup, Love to see Post by Email too.
  11. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    To my knowledge, no current forum software solutions have this, for several reasons, some of which I'll list here:

    1) Authentication. It's all too easy to fake an email authentication token and have spam posted to the forum

    2) Use of features. What's the point in spending money on a forum solution that's had loads of work on rich user experience, user interface and interactive features when you delegate all of that experience to an email client?

    3) Advertising. Lots of forums make money by running AdSense or a similar ad scheme on their pages. With email interaction, there is no need to visit the forum at all, resulting in zero advertising revenue.

    4) Choice of medium. Forums are web-based. There is an email-based medium, and it's called listserv (or various other email-based communication methods). If you really want an email-based solution, why opt for a forum?
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  12. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

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  13. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  14. cclaerhout

    cclaerhout Well-Known Member

    There is one, but I don't see any good reason to implement this on the server side whereas most browsers already have this option (client side).

    EDIT: and no need to say "IE needs it" (link | link | etc.).
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  15. cclaerhout

    cclaerhout Well-Known Member

    About Backup/Restore Database, see those posts:

    SSH command line is the best solution. Even with vBulletin 3.x which had a function to export the database, the official recommendation was to use the command line. It might be long to get used to the first times, but then... nothing can compete with it.

    For example:
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  16. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    We always used to crash our board whenever we exported the database from the vBulletin Admin CP.

    I genuinely do not see it as a necessary feature.
    Adam Howard, snoopy5, simbolo and 3 others like this.
  17. MagnusB

    MagnusB Well-Known Member

    phpBB had a feature where you could select what to export, like posts or members or whatever. You could do that from whatever else tool you use as well, but there was the simplicity factor (I am more often logged in to the ACP than I am in CPanel or similar).
  18. Luxus

    Luxus Well-Known Member

    Ever looked at the date? This review has been written before these addons existed.
  19. ManOnDaMoon

    ManOnDaMoon Well-Known Member

    Yup, but it makes sense to pause today and see how XF addon environment developped to cover those features.

    Also, "Post by email" is a feature that I believed was dedicated to Blogs: an easy way to post a blog entry when you are away from a computer (ie. smartphone friendly) , or behind a firewall that blocks your website. This is applicable to forums, but not really in a conversational context. Plus the other keypoints stated by Kier, I doubt this is really useful.
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  20. feldon30

    feldon30 Well-Known Member

    Every forum developer has steadfastly refused to provide a Post-by-email solution. I guess the millions of Yahoo Groups listserv customers don't appeal to them. Every listserv has a percentage of users who will NEVER visit a website to participate in the discussion. That percentage keeps the entire listserv from leaving Yahoo Groups. It's a huge untapped market.

    One day a smart person will come up with Post-by-Email that works well enough to consider it a serious migration from Yahoo Groups.
    Adam Howard, Alfa1 and gordy like this.

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