XenForo 2.0 Discussion

[Sheldon]

Will there be a proper reputation system implemented in Xenforo 2.0, something tantamount to reputation in vB? This is something I've found to be particularly annoying, as I've been substituting it with add-ons, add-ons that become unsupported and are not compatible with new XF versions, etc. As this is a core user statistic it becomes a big problem. Likes and the ratings add-on just don't suffice. I would love to see a native reputation system implemented in XF2.0, even if it's turned off by default.

Doubtful. XF uses the "Like" system.

I don't see it as a core statistic either. I actually hate the reputation system. I'd prefer Post Ratings over that.

 

[dehness]

Doubtful. XF uses the "Like" system.

I don't see it as a core statistic either. I actually hate the reputation system. I'd prefer Post Ratings over that.

It depends on what kind of forum you're running. The reputation system can incentivize posts in certain sections, categories, etc., in a way that post ratings simply can't. If you don't want to use it, then don't. But some of us would like the system. I've never understood why people are opposed to features they can just disable. Less is not more.

 

[oman]

It depends on what kind of forum you're running. The reputation system can incentivize posts in certain sections, categories, etc., in a way that post ratings simply can't. If you don't want to use it, then don't. But some of us would like the system. I've never understood why people are opposed to features they can just disable. Less is not more.

If you want to make a suggestion in the suggestions forum, you're more than welcome to: https://xenforo.com/community/forums/xenforo-suggestions.18/

 

[Sheldon]

It depends on what kind of forum you're running. The reputation system can incentivize posts in certain sections, categories, etc., in a way that post ratings simply can't. If you don't want to use it, then don't. But some of us would like the system. I've never understood why people are opposed to features they can just disable. Less is not more.

I've never understood why others continually attempt to make this vB either. I don't see many others requiring or really wanting this, and if that is the case, their is an add-on available for it.

 

[dehness]

I've never understood why others continually attempt to make this vB either. I don't see many others requiring or really wanting this, and if that is the case, their is an add-on available for it.

It's not about making it vB, it's about adding functionality to an already great system, one that's lacking. Like I said, if you don't want it, disable it.

I don't see many others requiring or really wanting this

Except for all the people downloading the multiple add-ons that provide this very function.

and if that is the case, their is an add-on available for it.

Since you clearly can't comprehend anything outside of your own perspective, I'll repeat myself. For purposes of ongoing compatibility, a native solution is much more effective.

 

[Sheldon]

Except for all the people downloading the multiple add-ons that provide this very function.

https://xenforo.com/community/resources/advanced-reputation-system.2400/

I see one that gives you the reputation system.

Since you clearly can't comprehend anything outside of your own perspective, I'll repeat myself. For purposes of ongoing compatibility, a native solution is much more effective

I am able to comprehend. My disagreeing has nothing to do with that, even if you italicize certain words.

I'll repeat myself, I don't see many others requiring or really wanting this, and if that is the case, their is an add-on available for it.

Also, if you feel as if it is needed, and feel as though the community feels the same way, simply make a suggestion as @oman said, garner the likes and discussion... if enough is there, I am certain the developers would take note. However, I think they chose the like system for a reason.

 

[John L.]

I actually wouldn't mind a bit more comprehensive liking system. I feel the likes system is a little too one-dimensional in its current form and I've always liked the reputation system. My issue with a reputation system has been that it is a little more cumbersome to actually give people reputation points. It requires more thinking and let's be honest...that's not always the best situation (depending on your board).

I would like to see a "Likeability" System. A weighted likes system that functions similarly to a reputation system, but without the difficulty of adding likes. Essentially you start with a weighted system for usergroups with an option called the "Like-able" Factor. Those in specific usergroups would have the likes they've given weighted more than say a regular members. You can also weight those who follow you giving you likes as opposed to those who don't.

And the best part? If you don't want the weighted system, then friggin' disable it .

Just an idea!

 

[ChiTownTalk]

I love Xenforo, was about to buy IPB but like that Geico commercial I saved money and got a better product by switching to xF!

 

[LurkerLou]

Single file upgrades.

 

[drastic]

Geieco doesn't ever save anyone money though. You still made a good choice, but anytime I called Geico, they were always more money!

I'd like to see videos monetized in either XF next version or even better - XenMediaGallery!

 

[Deriel]

I don't have many things to ask about XF2.0 - having seem the vB implosion, I think we all agree that XF2.0 should have:

• ... at least feature parity with XF1.4.x from the very begining
  
• ... the same performance or better than XF 1.4.x from the very begining
• ... the same extensability or better than XF 1.4.x from the very begining
• ... the same customizability (style-wise) or better than XF 1.4.x from the very begining
• ... a nice path/help to convert add-ons and styles.

Resuming: at least XF2 should be an equal to XF1.4.x with greater potential. Extra features will be only a proof of XF2 better extensability and the discussion about what should be core and what should be add-on is kind of trivial at this point. We know that ask for backwards compability with plugins and styles is too much (impossible, some say), but at least a nice guideline or path should be provided

 

[RickM]

TBH v2 only needs to have two new additions/changes IMO that would make it massively better:

- An API, and not some half-assed limited API, a full blown API with complete control being made available.
- The ability to use composer packages in a fairly universal way.

Those two things will make the core of XF a hell of a lot easier to write custom addons for.

 

[Reeve of Shinra]

Totally missed the announcement but exciting nevertheless!

 

[Gladius]

Go for PHP 5.5 - it's not like anyone would want to stick with 5.4 for any particular reason and if anyone's still on 5.3 by then they'll need to upgrade anyway, so it might as well be to 5.5+.

 

[raytrails]

Single file upgrades.

One-click-upgrade! Wordpress-like

 

[tyteen4a03]

Go for PHP 5.5 - it's not like anyone would want to stick with 5.4 for any particular reason and if anyone's still on 5.3 by then they'll need to upgrade anyway, so it might as well be to 5.5+.

XF have to cater for shared hosting services that are quite slow on upgrading PHP; some are still on 5.4.

My host let customers choose their own PHP version and extensions though.

 

[Gladius]

I think the majority of shared hosting providers today allow for the option of choosing the PHP version you want to run.

 

[RickM]

I think the majority of shared hosting providers today allow for the option of choosing the PHP version you want to run.

Sadly those choices are usually 5.2 or 5.3. iPage and GoDaddy (two of the crummiest hosts around) are prime examples of this.

Hosts wont willingly upgrade PHP versions as it causes issues for them and results in a ton of support tickets when things don't work well with the new version.

 

[Gladius]

Sadly those choices are usually 5.2 or 5.3. iPage and GoDaddy (two of the crummiest hosts around) are prime examples of this.

Hosts wont willingly upgrade PHP versions as it causes issues for them and results in a ton of support tickets when things don't work well with the new version.

5.3 is EOL so by the time XF 2.0 is released, 5.4 and 5.5 will almost definitely be available even on the crummiest of hosts. PHP 5.7 is very likely going to be out by then.

 

[Floyd R Turbo]

Seriously though, what is the choice you are making here? Pay $140 USD for the software then $3/month for host? You get what you pay for. There are plenty of low cost shared hosting plans that run up to date php, and if yours doesn't, it's not that hard to switch to one that does.