Lack of interest Upvote - Downvote Indicators

[Neutral Singh]

An observation: When I go to upvote a post, the arrow ( ^ ) is correctly pointing upwards...


But if I have a change of mind, I decide to undo the vote, even then the arrow is still pointing upwards, imho it should automatically indicate downwards to downvote from a logical point of view...

 

[ENF]

It seems that the down-vote option isn't enabled on XF.com: (as noted by @Chris D)

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[Neutral Singh]

It seems to be enabled as I am able to e.g. upvote to 22 and then downvote to 21 the same post... as shown in the images in my first post.

 

[beerForo]

You are removing not downvoting.

 

[Kirby]

You can't downvote suggestions as downvoting is not enabled there.
However, you can take back an upvote you had given previously - but that is not a downvote.

You can test downvoting in Test Threads like https://xenforo.com/community/threads/test-question.182114/

 

[Neutral Singh]

 

[Neutral Singh]

Even if I am removing, the arrow should point downwards...

 

[beerForo]

No

 

[Neutral Singh]

Yes

 

[Neutral Singh]

Or it should show x instead of ^ to remove...

 

[beerForo]

If you remove a Like you don't click a Thumbs Down or X

 

[Neutral Singh]

That's a different functionality... if pressing the counter would have only bold unbold then it have been fine.. but it involves a counter... up means up... down means down...

 

[beerForo]

It should not be down then you would think you are downvoting. You are not. You are removing an upvote.

15 will go to 14 (where it was) not 13.

 

[beerForo]

You will get the hang of it after some use. I don't expect you will be removing a lot of votes anyway..

 

[Anatoliy]

"Vote" & "Unvote" would do the job.
An arrow up that decrease amount was implemented by aliens, who want to sabotage human kind civilization.

 

[beerForo]

Why are you guys unvoting so much? So much that this is an issue?

 

[Anatoliy]

Why are you guys unvoting so much? So much that this is an issue?

that's all you can say, when nothing to say? )

 

[Mr Lucky]

That's a different functionality... if pressing the counter would have only bold unbold then it have been fine.. but it involves a counter... up means up... down means down...

I agree totally that this seems counterintuitive for arrows to not mean what you would expect. Seems to be what people are saying here also:

As designed - Upvoting made number go down

I went to an old thread: Scheduled Thread / Post Below the up arrow it said 117, I pressed the up arrow and the number changed to 116. I think this has to do with that I already had liked the thread way back. But I think this is a bug.

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[beerForo]

that's all you can say, when nothing to say? )

No I was asking to know why.

I feel it is because XF converted the Likes. So... when you visit now you go to vote (and you have already) and it goes down as you are now removing it. The initial reaction is "WTF?" But I feel if they had not converted them we would not be seeing this reaction and petition to change. I did it once and figured it out. Your own users should not have the same issue because you are not converting scores and unvoting is a rare occurrence when intended. The system feels very natural to me and I have never used reddit or SE.

My take is the arrow should definitely not point down but there could be some sort of "I already voted" indicator besides the color change. Just to eliminate the erroneous unvote which then in turn can cause this confusion. If somebody really wants to unvote then they would see the indicator removed as well but the arrows would stay as is. Maybe it can just say Voted with the date next to it. Like a post timestamp. "Voted 1 hour ago" "Voted January 12 2019" Just ideas.

 

[Karelke]

It's not intuitive. If you are removing something, there should be a bin icon or something similar.