Update on XenForo development status?

[Sadik B]

No point arguing with them Floren, it will just get thread locked to suit them fine. That's why ignore them all now, don't play into their hands.

It's not black and white my friend. You are obviously only adding fuel to fire. Not a very nice thing to do.

 

[Floren]

Perhaps take the other route then? Start one thread yourself, link to Kier's and Mike's Posts in the first post and close all others with a link to this thread.

Why do you think this is a good idea? We don't try to promote censorship like it was done on vBulletin site...
If I want to express my opinion in public, I certainly do NOT want my thread to be locked or deleted.

XenForo not providing answers/information is in itself an answer., Just not the one many of us want to hear.

I don't think is true. Personally, all I want is info on regular basis about XenForo. All this mainly to close permanently the mouths who talk bad about XenForo and to increase the product confidence. Everyone agrees, it is not too much asked.

the frequent status updates of the past couple years were pretty out of character imo.

Which brings me to the reply I posted earlier in this thread...

 

[Paul B]

Q.E.D.

 

[Sadik B]

Why do you think this is a good idea? We don't try to promote censorship like it was done on vBulletin site...
If I want to express my opinion in public, I certainly do NOT want my thread to be locked or deleted.

It's good both ways. People who do nothing in threads like these other than complaining "not one of these threads again" will not be able to do so, because then there will be only one thread! You get to say what you want there and it's easier to maintain by the Mods here. Moreover if it's a single thread and a few dozen (or a hundred) or so people post asking for update, your case is stronger than say 20 different threads which are scattered around.

Overall this would be second best thing to do. Obviously the best thing would be if an official Xenforo announcement was posted.

 

[Floren]

Moreover if it's a single thread and a few dozen (or a hundred) or so people post asking for update, your case is stronger than say 20 different threads which are scattered around.

I agree, then we can see the real number of complains related to lack of development updates.
Of course there are many users who don't complain about the lack of updates. They run their forum and are happy with the current situation as it does not affect them. What if a security exploit is released and half of XenForo boards are hacked beyond fix? Watch those users how they will storm here, asking questions. And watch them how they will get raged when they will have their threads closed or get no answers from development team.

That is the EXACT same scenario I'm posting about, only viewed from a different angle.

Q.E.D.

What this means, Brogan? I hope you will not close this thread. Sorry, I'm not familiar with abbreviations (unless you are referring to the Latin expression). I think sadikb's idea is great, we should have all threads merged into one.

 

[Rob]

I've seen quite enough of this thread now which as brogan has predicted has definitely derailed. Floren had good reason to post this thread and it should not be the case, on such a young forum that he be crucified for not 'using the search button' - which is where this has flared up from. Not everyone has time to read all the threads and search for threads which may be along the same lines. I believe the concerns are legitimate.. we all share them.

Brogan, may I suggest the best course of action to stop threads like these (and their derailment) is for you (who is most available) to post up an announcement of some sort in a new thread and close it. This way, whenever these threads come up (this sure as hell wont be the last) they can be promptly closed with a link to the announcement. There is then just one post for you to maintain with news.

I certainly don't wish to tell you how to undertake your moderator role but I have thought hard how to prevent these type of threads running riot and bringing negativity into an otherwise vibrant community.

 

[guiltar]

I'm fairly sure that I would be severely criticised and castigated for merging several different threads by different authors on similar subjects.

You can leave one thread no matter what is happening here and close others. Otherwise such threads will appear over and over.

Axivo charges in average between 3-5,000 dollars per performance cluster setup...

Offtop question: Axivo produces any addons? What kind of?

 

[Floren]

Axivo produces any addons? What kind of?

We mainly deal with companies that require our optimization services in a cluster environment. We do not focus on products development as it represents a minor income source for us. Hence the interaction with very large vBulletin forums.

 

[Paul B]

Rob, what would you like me to announce?
That there's nothing to announce?

Let's be honest, I would be slated for posting a new thread just to say there's nothing to say.

At this point it's up to Ashley, Kier or Mike to make an announcement, not me.

 

[Slavik]

Rob, what would you like me to announce?
That there's nothing to announce?

Let's be honest, I would be slated for posting a new thread just to say there's nothing to say.

At this point it's up to Ashley, Kier or Mike to make an announcement, not me.

Can we slate you for not announcing theres nothing to announce


Please

 

[Shelley]

Rob, what would you like me to announce?
That there's nothing to announce?

Let's be honest, I would be slated for posting a new thread just to say there's nothing to say.

At this point it's up to Ashley, Kier or Mike to make an announcement, not me.

Then why keep a thread open from a member asking a legitimate question being crucified by some and allowing it continue? I'm starting to think your either enjoying seeing people jump around in hoops. Pathetic.

 

[Andrej]

Then why keep a thread open from a member asking a legitimate question being crucified by some and allowing it continue? I starting to think your either enjoying seeing people jump around in hoops. Pathetic.

I was about to say something else, but that just... summed up my throughts.

 

[Paul B]

Think what you like Shelley.

You're usually wrong, as you are again in this instance.

 

[Floren]

Brogan, may I suggest the best course of action to stop threads like these (and their derailment) is for you (who is most available) to post up an announcement of some sort in a new thread and close it.

I think the best course of action is to merge all identical threads into one. I agree with Brogan that he cannot announce anything. Myself, I see a lot of positive feedback from users wanting to find out about XenForo updates. Which was my ultimate goal. Let's hope more constructive posts will be made, which will trigger an Announcement.

 

[Sadik B]

Rob, what would you like me to announce?
That there's nothing to announce?

Let's be honest, I would be slated for posting a new thread just to say there's nothing to say.

At this point it's up to Ashley, Kier or Mike to make an announcement, not me.

Hi Guys (and Gals!)

Last couple of months we are seeing a lot of new threads come up asking for Xenforo Development Update. Some of the information is scattered in various threads. Here are the links to posts by Kier and Mike:

Link 1, Link 2, Link 3

Also, all current threads asking for and discussing / debating Xenforo development update (or lack of it) have now been closed with a link to this thread. Please discuss your concerns, opinions in this thread and refrain from personal insults as such posts will be removed. All future threads on this topic (until an official Xenforo Announcement is posted) will be closed with a link to this thread.

So bring it on!!!

Your friendly neighborhood Mod
Bro (Bot ?)gan!

 

[mrGTB]

Then why keep a thread open from a member asking a legitimate question being crucified by some and allowing it continue? I'm starting to think your either enjoying seeing people jump around in hoops. Pathetic.

Maybe Brogan leaves it open hoping Kier, Mike or Ashley will read all the replies and have the common sense to finally post an announcement giving some answers. If Brogan keeps closing them all right away, that just makes him look the bad guy here. I don't blame him saying he's given over now, he can't win either way it seems - "Piggy in the middle" springs to mind. Dammed if he closed it, slated for leaving running.

 

[Floren]

Then why keep a thread open from a member asking a legitimate question being crucified by some and allowing it continue? I'm starting to think your either enjoying seeing people jump around in hoops.

Personally, I think Brogan is very professional. That's all it matters to me. And I think he leaves this thread open so it gives a chance to others expressing themselves on the same subject who was closed on so many occasions (from what I read here). I really appreciate that and I believe deep down inside of him, he would like to read more about XenForo updates also.

As you probably noticed in this thread, I'm very harsh to stupid posts that waste everyone's time and also professional with people who post intelligent remarks. (whoaa first smilie I post in this thread)

 

[we_are_borg]

Well i hope that Kier, Mike and Ashley are all right as well as their families.

The lack of information made me decide not to renew my licence until such time i think Xenforo is being actively developed again and the developers post on regular basis like in the past. When you run your own business you know that even when you are sick or have any sort of problem you need to think of the customers you have, even if it means delegating to other to keep your customers in the loop what happening with the business and what the plans are.

 

[Eric Russell]

Floren - as a xenforo customer I think you have a right to open a thread and ask the questions you've asked whether others have opened threads or not. You paid your money and you should be able to open a thread looking for service if you wish.

That said, I think you have enough information to make an educated decision on whether or not xenforo will work for you customers. Basing you business decisions on the fact that you are friends with the xenforo devs makes no business sense to me.

 

[Floren]

Well i hope that Kier, Mike and Ashley are all right as well as their families.

You said it very well, this is not personal... is business related. Plus, XenForo is not at the stage where they can control the forum market or they can toy with clients like vBulletin did in the past. I'm pretty sure many others did not renewed their licenses. I know I did not. Why would I, if there is "no development" done?

I think you have enough information to make an educated decision on whether or not xenforo will work for you customers. Basing you business decisions on the fact that you are friends with the xenforo devs makes no business sense to me.

That is the dilemma, Eric. Personally, I would like to help XenForo gain more visibility among the large vBulletin forums mainly because I looked at the code and I can see the real potential this software has. Because Searchlight, we have a fair number of them as Axivo clients. This is how I see it: If I notice development updates, I'm able to better advice clients what approach they should use.

I do not want to help closing the XenForo door, just because someone decided not to post a simple announcement that could technically generate an instant amount of income for XenForo itself. I certainly do not want to sound like a magnate, as I don't make millions in income from my little company. But XenForo does bring food on my table indirectly from vBulletin and I cannot forget that.