So whats next (after v1 final)

Adam Howard

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I would imagine it would be bug fixing the small bugs others will find. But over all, what do you think they should work on next or will work on next?!

I'm hoping for an official blog or bridge. While I know the majority maybe hoping for a CMS.
 
Dam you had me good there... Thought you was serious there...... GOOD ONE!!

Not trying to have anyone in any way my friend, I was genuinely trying to show my support of XenForo as my beliefs stand today and this chap Kier has chosen to single me out and misquote me, I am feeling quite confused do you see that?
 
Not trying to have anyone in any way my friend, I was genuinely trying to show my support of XenForo as my beliefs stand today and this chap Kier has chosen to single me out and misquote me, I am feeling quite confused do you see that?
Yes it was kind of a miss quote I agree but your reply after that saying you found Vb stylevar's easyer kind of shocked me... They was and ARE soo very bad? did you use them? or is your post base on that spinny disk thing they had?
Edit = I see you are a skinner hmm you have to of used the stylevar's hmm guess you are one of the rare people who liked it :X3:
 
If I was just celebrating the 1.0 stable release, as a lead developer, my two week roadmap would be this

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except

lanzarote-surfing.jpg


then come back refreshed and motivated!
 
Yes it was kind of a miss quote I agree but your reply after that saying you found Vb stylevar's easyer kind of shocked me... They was and ARE soo very bad? did you use them? or is your post base on that spinny disk thing they had?

I did use the stylevars and they were a nightmare, but I found them easier to bypass than the style properties, but as I learn the XenForo construct i am seeing the software here is far superior and a great deal more complex than the vb software. Like I say, now I have got my feet wet and had a good paddle in the XenForo pond I am seeing my original beliefs were wrong, and I have publicly stated as much to show my respect to the dev's here where my previous comments would have hurt their feelings, my small token gesture of trying to apologise you see. :)
 
I would have thought importers would be pretty high up on priority list to increase customer base and income before working on much else after gold.

Right, because so far we've been completely ignoring everyone and have offered nothing in the way of support...

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit Mr Darby ....................... Nobody ever mentions however, its also bloody hilarious LOL ..

Electronic communication is not always easy and things can be taken the wrong way.

Indeed it can .... Im guessing that would go for Kiers Electronic communication too? :P .. Sorry but I thought the responce was funny :D


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I think the underlying question in the original post is very valid and mostly the reason why I haven't bought yet.

What's next? No clue. It could be something completely useless to me, the things you need for your community may or may not be in the products future. There is no cohensive plan for the product outside of a few dudes writing some code for whatever their whims might be.

What is the long term goals for XenForo Ltd, the software, developer staff growth, etc. There are lots of important questions regarding the long term growth and viability of the product. Questions that so far, are ignored.

Again, look at XenForo business as a model. What is the model? (The obvious answer is not necessarily the truth). What are it's income sources, how does it appreciate marketshare, can it maintain growth with limited offerings, what new revnue adding offerings will help it grow the business, allow it more developers, etc.

Software evaluation is one thing, evaluating the business offering the software is another. I do both when I make my purchases. The software is solid, I'm just not yet convinced that the business is in the long term.
 
I think the underlying question in the original post is very valid and mostly the reason why I haven't bought yet.

What's next? No clue. It could be something completely useless to me, the things you need for your community may or may not be in the products future. There is no cohensive plan for the product outside of a few dudes writing some code for whatever their whims might be.

What is the long term goals for XenForo Ltd, the software, developer staff growth, etc. There are lots of important questions regarding the long term growth and viability of the product. Questions that so far, are ignored.

Again, look at XenForo business as a model. What is the model? (The obvious answer is not necessarily the truth). What are it's income sources, how does it appreciate marketshare, can it maintain growth with limited offerings, what new revnue adding offerings will help it grow the business, allow it more developers, etc.

Software evaluation is one thing, evaluating the business offering the software is another. I do both when I make my purchases. The software is solid, I'm just not yet convinced that the business is in the long term.
You are waiting for XenForo to release their business plan to the general public before you will buy a license? I'm not sure I've seen to many businesses release their business plans.
 
I think the underlying question in the original post is very valid and mostly the reason why I haven't bought yet.

What's next? No clue. It could be something completely useless to me, the things you need for your community may or may not be in the products future. There is no cohensive plan for the product outside of a few dudes writing some code for whatever their whims might be.

What is the long term goals for XenForo Ltd, the software, developer staff growth, etc. There are lots of important questions regarding the long term growth and viability of the product. Questions that so far, are ignored.

Again, look at XenForo business as a model. What is the model? (The obvious answer is not necessarily the truth). What are it's income sources, how does it appreciate marketshare, can it maintain growth with limited offerings, what new revnue adding offerings will help it grow the business, allow it more developers, etc.

Software evaluation is one thing, evaluating the business offering the software is another. I do both when I make my purchases. The software is solid, I'm just not yet convinced that the business is in the long term.
If a software this solid hasn't convinced you to purchase, NOTHING will! What you are asking for is simply not possible. However, knowing the developers and their interaction with the community and implmentation of feed back and suggestions is evident of xenForo's success.
 
It should be mentioned that it also isn't like Kier, Mike, and Ashley are new faces to the internet either. We know who they are, where they came from, and we're confident that it's highly, highly unlikely that they have a fly-by-night business.

I could understand the skepticism if it was a start-up company with people who we didn't know of, but these are people who left a place we're all familiar with, where it was difficult to move against the tide and went in a new direction they saw fit. XenForo should speak for itself about the dedication and time that went into it, and I can't see how anyone can logically connect that with something that isn't long-term.
 
I did use the stylevars and they were a nightmare, but I found them easier to bypass than the style properties, but as I learn the XenForo construct i am seeing the software here is far superior and a great deal more complex than the vb software. Like I say, now I have got my feet wet and had a good paddle in the XenForo pond I am seeing my original beliefs were wrong, and I have publicly stated as much to show my respect to the dev's here where my previous comments would have hurt their feelings, my small token gesture of trying to apologise you see. :)
You do know you don't have to use the Style Properties at all, right? You can simply edit the CSS directly in the templates and the Style Properties will update by themselves to reflect your edited CSS. Honestly, I can't think of a way XenForo could be much easier to work with. Editing CSS and HTML directly is about as easy as it gets. :)
 
40 days ago I never heard of XenForo. Three weeks ago I didn't know how to make a "Hello World" web page. Since then I purchased XenForo and next week my site will be finished from a development perspective. I'll then spend 2 weeks building site content (media, images, articles) then go public. Thanks to the quality and flexibility XF offered me, along with the tremendous support of both the XF staff and community, my site will absolutely blow the doors off even my closest competitor. Streaming video, locally hosted content, integrated blogs, a CMS (XenPorta) which is supported by news feeds, social site integration (facebook, twitter, etc), chatroom, etc etc. Sure some of these features are via add-ons, but it's avaialable for all of us, right now. Most importantly, and often least mentioned, is stability.

I was extremely worried about upgrading from XF RC3 to XF 1.0.0 today. The actual upgrade process took less then 15 minutes and was completely painless. The Outdated Template issues I experienced were completely my fault due to my inexperience with coding this type of software. Even still, all issues were resolved in 2 hours and my site is running smoothly.

Sure there are a ton of wishes we all have for additional features. XF can surely use a bigger smiley inventory ;) It's clear to me that we can trust Kier, Mike and the XF team to prioritize our needs and we will be taken care of in time. Maybe the feature we want will be in 1.1, or maybe not until 1.x, but it will be there. For now I hope the team disappears for a nice vacation, puts their (bare) feet up and celebrates their success.

I only wish XF did more then design software. Personally I'd like to take a XenVette for a drive and grab a XenPizza.
 
You are waiting for XenForo to release their business plan to the general public before you will buy a license?

No. Simply waiting to see if the company has any plans for the future beyond good forum software.

I know that any community I build is going to need more than just forums with topics and replies. It's going to need a lot more. If the well qualified people coding XenForo decide to make offerings to round out their product, I'll be a lot more interested.

Is it the perspective of XenForo developers to focus only on forums? What kinds of communities does XenForo software currently serve and what kind do they hope to be able to serve in the future? How important are commercial clients in the short term vs long term? Given that any business worth their salt is going to be interested in metrics generated by their communities, are there plans to address the current lacking? Is slow growth or fast growth better for XenForo in terms of both staff and software offerings?

Again, if your forum is a hobby, that's fantastic. But some people are looking to invest in a platform to manage a business and the needs of their business. Frankly, there has been zero discussion about the goals for XenForo, where it is going, where it wants to go, or why we'd want to come along.

The developers are talented, fantastic, but that doesn't answer any of the lingering questions.

I'm not sure I've seen to many businesses release their business plans.

I guess you haven't heard about companies like Telligent, or many of the hundreds of other tech and software companies that talk about where their company is going, what their goals are and the kinds of products and services they want to offer in the future.
 
Alrighty then, obviously I have irked you some what some how, in point of fact you are quoting me out of context, XenForo has a pretty serious learning curve in the styling areas, I am still a long way from feeling comfortable working with Styles in XenForo, and yes, I found vBulletin a heck of a lot easier to learn to style than XenForo, that is what that quote is in context with.
That is something I would expect Charlie Sheen to say.
I couldn't even attempt to delve into the stylevar cluster*k that is in vB. XF actually makes it fun.


My my, defensive again Kier.
I merely pointed out you have to officially provide support - tickets etc.
I took it that way too.
 
Alrighty then, obviously I have irked you some what some how, in point of fact you are quoting me out of context, XenForo has a pretty serious learning curve in the styling areas, I am still a long way from feeling comfortable working with Styles in XenForo, and yes, I found vBulletin a heck of a lot easier to learn to style than XenForo, that is what that quote is in context with.

The fact of the matter here is that I have grown to truly value what you guys are doing here and I have publicly changed my tune right here, but feel free to misquote me if it makes you feel better, but it's a bit harsh, or perhaps you don't like the idea of some of us coming to like what you're doing, I find you a bit confusing I must say.

It's just HTML in templates, CSS in the css area (some supported via quick style var changes) ...

It's not vBulletin <table>, it's modern technologies. The learning curve is: find the right template (just like in vBulletin) and find the right class or id to edit, add, or delete, etc .. (just like vB) it is just done .. so much easier, more logical interface and all that.

Stop thinking in Tables and having to put background images in them using <img> and all that .. and life will be easier.
 
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