Implemented Removing Icons from xenforo-ui-sprite.png

[Shelley]

I was just curious whether xenforo will be removing (what seems) now redundant icons from the xenforo-ui-sprite.png? Since the editor has moved to Redactor and it's using it's own icons it might be best removing those (highlighted in the screenshot) to make way for possible icons for the future that you may add or users may add to utilize the space.

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[Paul B]

If an add-on developer wants to create an add-on for another editor, it is up to them to supply all of the elements, including any icons.

XenForo no longer supports TinyMCE in the 1.2 branch therefore the icons are superfluous.

 

[Jeremy]

Well, since they aren't used anywhere on the software (and if they were, they can be added again separately by those items that used it), its wasted bandwidth and processing power to supply them. If someone implements TinyMCE again (as Brogan said) it'll be up to that add-on developer to add them back in again.

 

[Luxus]

If an add-on developer wants to create an add-on for another editor, it is up to them to supply all of the elements, including any icons.

XenForo no longer supports TinyMCE in the 1.2 branch therefore the icons are superfluous.

So are you saying if XenForo supports TinyMCE again in the xF 1.3 branch, the removed icons will be added back?

 

[Jeremy]

Yes. But why that would ever be the case? Considering they just switched from TinyMCE.

 

[Kevin]

So are you saying if XenForo supports TinyMCE again in the xF 1.3 branch, the removed icons will be added back?

What makes you possibly think there are any plans for XF to support TinyMCE again after going through the pain of removing it?

 

[Luxus]

Yes. But why that would ever be the case? Considering they just switched from TinyMCE.

Who knows? Giving people more options just like with CMSes?

 

[Shelley]

So are you saying if XenForo supports TinyMCE again in the xF 1.3 branch, the removed icons will be added back?

I can't see them ever reverting back to tinymce. And if they did, I'd personally gnaw there legs off with my teeth. #nom4greatbritain.

 

[Jeremy]

I feel like maintaining 2 editors (when one had quite a few issues) just to allow switching between them is a bit far-fetched, but if they were going to do it, they would have done it by now instead of reimplementing the old editor in a different release. I'm fairly sure you can kiss TinyMCE good bye unless brought back by an add-on developer.

 

[Chris D]

It's probably safe to say, that if there were even the smallest plans to use another editor, they would of course have kept the sprites in. Seeing as they've been removed, it appears unlikely.

So a bit of a non-argument really

 

[Luxus]

I wonder if I should bother making a thread suggesting to remove all those XX unused phrases then.

 

[Chris D]

Feel free.

 

[Shelley]

Okay I have my bible out, in leatherback form. Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please NEVER go back to TINYMCE. I make my pledge now, and going all biblical on you.

 

[Paul B]

Besides which, if the editor is ever replaced again in the future, if it is TinyMCE it won't be TinyMCE 3 so the current icons wouldn't be re-used anyway.

 

[Jeremy]

I wonder if I should bother making a thread suggesting to remove all those XX unused phrases then.

I'm fairly sure unused phrases would be considered a bug. Mike might disagree tho.

 

[Luxus]

I'm fairly sure unused phrases would be considered a bug. Mike might disagree tho.

I don't think so. Mike told me on one thread that the phrases I pointed out aren't used anymore without bothering to remove them.

Besides which, if the editor is ever replaced again in the future, if it is TinyMCE it won't be TinyMCE 3 so the current icons wouldn't be re-used anyway.

It seems you are right.

 

[Jeremy]

Then suggest it.

 

[Sheldon]

I know I like to debate and argue, but wow. Hehe. This is good stuff.

 

[cclaerhout]

It seems you are right.

Yes, MCE4 doesn't use any classic icons anymore and which is an excellent thing in my opinion. See why here.

Okay I have my bible out, in leatherback form. Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please NEVER go back to TINYMCE. I make my pledge now, and going all biblical on you.

It's funny to see how people here do MCE bashing because its incomplete integration. It's even more funny to think that they're going to love Redactor because this time the integration has been completed ( no matter all the patches done to its core), whereas it's by default a bad/incomplete html editor and can't even match mce3 (I'm not even talking about mce4) about editing functions. And it's better to avoid to look at the licence or even the communication (see here for fun).

 

[Jeremy]

I hated TinyMCE, I hate CKEditor even more. So far, Redactor hasn't caused me to hate it. I just don't complain or bash because the decision was made.

 

[cclaerhout]

I hated TinyMCE, I hate CKEditor even more.

Did you at least use these editors in a HTML environnement and not in a BbCode one? If yes, what did make you "hate" them ? If no, no need to go any further.