Question About XenForo for a Small Community Website ?

Hi,

I’m considering using XenForo to build a small but growing community website and wanted to ask a few pre-sales questions before making a decision.


My main goal is to have a forum that is fast, secure, and easy to manage, with room to grow over time. I’m particularly interested in how XenForo performs with SEO, how easy it is to customize the design, and whether it’s suitable for someone who is not a full-time developer.


I’d also like to know how flexible XenForo is when it comes to adding add-ons later and handling regular updates without issues.


Any advice or insights from the XenForo team or experienced users would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you for your time!
 
how easy it is to customize the design, and whether it’s suitable for someone who is not a full-time developer.
If you start simple and gradually learn as you go along it’s fine. I’ve learned a lot from posting here.

I’m particularly interested in how XenForo performs with SEO
It’s fine, but there are some addons that can help, eg, with meta titles / descriptions.


SEO doesn’t usually happen without some curating: most SEO is down to content but you can choose which forums or threads get noindex which is a useful relatively recent improvement.

If I started again I’d use xenForo
 
My main goal is to have a forum that is fast, secure, and easy to manage, with room to grow over time.
That is probably what everybody wants and expects who plans to start a forum (hard to imagine that someone would want the opposite). With XF you can consider this a given.
I’m particularly interested in how XenForo performs with SEO,
Pretty well in my experience. As you seem to be a SEO studio yourself you probably know about the generic topics and limitations around SEO.
how easy it is to customize the design,
Easy and there are many 3rd party designs available as well.
and whether it’s suitable for someone who is not a full-time developer.
Probably most forums owners are not a developer. So sure, works fine. Still some understanding of internet technologies ist helpful (though technically not necessary) - as with all server software you can shoot yourself in the foot if you do not know what you are doing, though it is in my eyes somewhat harder to shoot yourself in the foot with XF than with other server software.
I’d also like to know how flexible XenForo is when it comes to adding add-ons later
There are hundreds of add ons available and they are very easy to install. Just check the add on section of this forum.
and handling regular updates without issues.
Regular updates usually run flawlessly w/o issues, however, you may run into trouble with add ons you are using if they are not updated accordingly when necessary. Vastly depends from the developer of the add on if updates are availably quickly (or at all).
Any advice or insights from the XenForo team or experienced users would be greatly appreciated.
I'm wondering a bit if your questions are authentic as your request is so generic, polished and high level that you could easily have answered them yourself by only spending a couple of minutes reading here in the forums or the XF manual. So somewhat unsure if I just made a fool of myself by answering them. Which also leads to the advice: If you really want to start over with XF (or any other forum software) and have no experience you will face some issues initially, caused by lack of knowledge and experience with the concepts and the interface, not by the software itself. To deal with them you have to learn and for learning you have to read - the forum here is an excellent starting point. W/o the willingness to do so it probably won't work (or at least not well).
 
Use the free demo to get an insight to the backend workings - this is where everything you want to adjust is to be found. Adding add-ons, adding pre-made themes, setting permissions and various other settings that allow you to tweak the forum to your needs. This is the best route to go so you can get an understanding of how things work, and how easy it can be to make changes.

 
I’m particularly interested in how XenForo performs with SEO
You cannot have SEO without valuable content.

how easy it is to customize the design, and whether it’s suitable for someone who is not a full-time developer.

Check @Pixel Exit and @ThemeHouse developers when comes to choose a good theme. These are the only 2 I recommend as I had good experience with them, customer service at the TOP. There are some which I would avoid.


I’d also like to know how flexible XenForo is when it comes to adding add-ons later and handling regular updates without issues.
Less addons = less pain. Keep it simple. if you need some, get from well known developers.
 
My main goal is to have a forum that is fast, secure, and easy to manage, with room to grow over time.
XenForo is the right choice for your goal. It has all the above aforementioned qualities imo.

I’d also like to know how flexible XenForo is when it comes to adding add-ons later and handling regular updates without issues.
Installing add ons is very easy. All you have to do is go to the add ons area inside your admin panel and click the Install/upgrade from archive link. Then upload the add on 's zip package from your download location and that's about it. Regarding the upgrade process, XenForo has a one-click upgrade system that you can perform from your forum 's admin panel. You can also upgrade your forum the old fashion way a.k.a. as manually. Here you can read more on the subject.

 
Here you can see the usage statistics for forum software...

Honestly, although I think WoltLab is good software, I prefer using Xeonforo, which is still the most used forum...
Bbpess (which I use for a fairly large project) isn't a forum on par with xeonforo and invisioncommunity.


From what I've seen, the BBpress numbers are probably grossly inflated.

It's a one click free install on WordPress, so there are many installs, but in the wild I've seen few that actually have anything other than the site owner's posts.
 
Hi,

I’m considering using XenForo to build a small but growing community website and wanted to ask a few pre-sales questions before making a decision.


My main goal is to have a forum that is fast, secure, and easy to manage, with room to grow over time. I’m particularly interested in how XenForo performs with SEO, how easy it is to customize the design, and whether it’s suitable for someone who is not a full-time developer.


I’d also like to know how flexible XenForo is when it comes to adding add-ons later and handling regular updates without issues.


Any advice or insights from the XenForo team or experienced users would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you for your time!
I'm not any kind of developer, and started using it from scratch with no prior knowledge. It's quite easy to set up and you can start simple and explore the Admin control panel settings at your leisure, as and when needed. And ask questions on here.

In terms of updates and addons, it's very easy and intuitive. However 2.3.7 update does have a thing where it rotates photos and needs a fix. Hence I skipped it and am waiting for 2.3.8. I would assume, as a new user, you would automatically start on the latest version 2.3.7 so I would ask about that before buying. Maybe you can start on 2.3.6 and stay there until 2.3.8 comes out. Aside from that it has been extremely simple and reliable for me for the last 3 years. Likewise with addons. Again you can work out what you need as you go along. For example after a while I added "change date" and "change author" from Andy B's addons - as this enabled me to move a post earlier in the thread or post for someone and then change my username to theirs (rarely needed but useful).

I can recommend Andy B's addons - all available for one fee. Another useful one for a new forum is "Members Recently Online". For when you start out and want it to look busier than it is! It lists everyone who has ever logged on over a certain period of time - as opposed to only showing people currently logged in.

If you're in the Uk though you'll need to do a risk assessment for the online safety act, and tailor your forum accordingly to that - which is a pain but it's just paperwork.
 
SEO doesn’t usually happen without some curating:
This. I haven't lifted a finger to do anything with SEO. On the largest forum I manage, the content is what the search engines pick up automatically and our niche topics are already "above the fold" on search engine results.

Just my opinion but the "SEO" industry is shady as you-know-what.
 
Agree that a straight forum doesn't have a lot of SEO - and it's mainly a case of regularly posting quality content and having the site crawled by search engines, for results to come up. Although XF does have sharing links, which enables you to easily share posts, articles etc on other sites, giving backlinks. And also options for meta logos etc.

I do have some extra seo options via Bob's Article Management System which I have as an addon for a visual home page. The articles have a number of SEO options such as meta titles and text. And can also be reviewed. The articles come up as snippets with an image on google for certain topics and a five star rating also shows. Which is very helpful.

But ultimately, for a new forum it needs a lot of regular posting - daily - of quality content, so more and more links show up in search engines.

I also have a pixel exit style which has a number of useful features, including adding info to the footer. I've noticed my footer description has been helpful with key words and SEO.
 
Honestly, although I think WoltLab is good software, I prefer using Xeonforo, which is still the most used forum...
Bbpess (which I use for a fairly large project) isn't a forum on par with xeonforo and invisioncommunity.

https://www.wmtips.com/technologies/internet-forum-software/
Impossible, but it would be intersting to know how valid these numbers are. Possibly based on a bot that scans domains as long as he is not blocked. They say:

  • The analysis is based on our extensive dataset of websites crawled by the Website Information tool and other tools available on our site. This dataset is broad and diverse enough to be considered a representative sample of the web.
  • Currently analyzed: 2,644,665 domains from 247 countries and territories. (...)
While we strive for accuracy, please note that our results are estimates. Therefore, the data is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind.

So they have a bit over 2.5 million domains "analyzed"- in fact less, as they do count every subdomain as a separate domain as they say. Not too impressive to be honest as shows a check of the relevant statistics:

The second quarter of 2025 closed with 371.7 million domain name registrations across all top-level domains (TLDs), an increase of 3.3 million domain name registrations, or 0.9% compared to the first quarter of 2025. Domain name registrations increased by 9.3 million, or 2.6%, year over year.
Which means they analyzed not even 0,7% of the existing domains and from that you still have to substract all subdomains that they hit (and count as a full domain of it's own). So in fact it will be way less than 0,7% to an unknown degree. How reliable their marketshare stats are is thus unclear.

The actual numbers they have is according to them:

3875 bbPress installations, 31,5% of the forum market and 0,1% of the webpages (with 0 in the top 10.000 highest-ranked webpages, highest is 16.5xx)
1827 XenForo installations, 14,8% of the forum market and 0,07% of the webpages (with 9 of them in the top 10.000)
1717 phpBB installation, 14% of the forum market and 0,06% of the webpages (with 1 of them in the top 10.000, rank 9.922)
1089 Invision installation, 8,8% of the forum market and 0,04% of the webpages (with 0 in the top 10.000, highest is 15.9xx)
1058 vBulletin installations, 8,6% of the forum market and 0,04% of the webpages (with 1 in the top 10.000)
(...)
308 WoltLab installations, 2,5% market share and 0,01% of the webpages (with 0 in the top 10.000, highest is 43.xxx)

Which would mean: According to them there would be a number of 12.301 forums worldwide, or, extrapolated to the real number of registred domains (times 142), at least 1.757.285 forums (plus an unknown x to compensate for subdomains they counted that lower the actual number of domains they analyzed). True or at least probable or possible? I've no idea.

However, if it was true there would be 259.434 + x XenForo installs out there (1827+142) - seems a bit steep if I should guess... Let's greatfully assume half of the domains were actually unused, placeholders or redirects this would still leave us with 130.000 + x XenForo installs. Sounds a bit more realistic? Now let's further assume just 20% of the forum owners would extend their license per year. This alone (w/o MG, RM or ES)) would create a turnover of 26.000 * 60$ = 1.560.000$ + x. For license extensions alone, w/o new sales and w/o cloud. Given the small size of the XF team and the fact that apart from people there probably is not too much cost involved in the company my guess would be: This does not add up terribly well.

So probably the numbers from the statistic are a somewhat random indicator, but nothing more, nor really reliable.

From what I've seen, the BBpress numbers are probably grossly inflated.
It's a one click free install on WordPress, so there are many installs, but in the wild I've seen few that actually have anything other than the site owner's posts.
Mainly I think it has a different use case and audience than XF and other dedicated forum software. Plus, as you say, not only being free but also a plugin for Wordpress, it is quickly installed and as quickly ignored or forgotten afterwards.

Honestly, although I think WoltLab is good software, I prefer using Xeonforo, which is still the most used forum...
According to the statistic you posted 85% of the Woltlab installs are based in Germany - which seems to make sense as they are a German company and so is their audience. I've using Woltlab as a forum member for many years and can't say anything about it. However, when it came to choose the software for my forum I went for XenForo b/c I had been using it more than Woltlab as a user over the years and really liked it. A big point for XenForo was the huge community - Woltlabs is way smaller and at that time most pepole tere seemed to have a bit of a stiff upper lip for the most part. For non German speaker the community may possibly be prestty small as well.

I had a look at what Woltlab offers just today and on paper it could suit me better than XF: It is a tad cheaper initially and already includes a files repository (which seems a more suitable variant of the resource manager), a photo gallery and a CMS-like editor along with many things more that I wished XF had but hasn't. Even their cloud offering seems potentially interesting. Their add on system seems decent, for the most part sufficient and well maintained, too - but in opposite to XF the number of devs seems smaller. Typically there is one add on for a certain purpose, so nothing to choose from like it is often the case with XF. However: It is only the paper-form anyway, typically one will realize the smaller and bigger annoyances only after some time and I have no intention to switch horses.
I do like the default style of XF better btw - Woltlab looks more modern but also a bit cold and distant, maybe I am old.
 
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