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Please put the Quote button back as a stand alone button in the editor toolbar

Discussion in 'XenForo Suggestions' started by AndyB, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    Quoting text is a very often and important function in communicating on a forum. Placing the quote button under a drop down was a bad idea IMHO. Please put the Quote button back as a stand alone button which can be easily seen and clicked.

    Thank you.

    Please Like this post if you want to see this changed!
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2014
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  2. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    It already is a standalone link? I'm not understanding.
  3. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    It has been moved to a dropdown.

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  4. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    If you're quoting someone you surely almost always hit the quote button next to a post. Inserting the quote bbcode without the quoted content is something that I assume happens very rarely...
  5. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    Ah, that.

    For some reason, I completely oversaw "editor toolbar."
  6. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    Not when quoting articles, though, and similar things. Although I personally think it's fine as is.
  7. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    No it happens often and is a very important way of identifying quoted text from the authors own words.

    For example if text from a Wikipedia article is being added to a message, it is very important to use the Quote button and also to show the source link.


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  8. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    I understand what you mean but I'd disagree with "often". I'd say its no more common than spoiler, code, etc.
  9. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    This is something I said to someone the other day - how I wish the Quote button still had its own place on the editor instead of in the dropdown. On one site, I use the quote button a lot - I've now resorted to manually typing in the BBCode because I'm sick of tracking down the dropdown containing it along with spoiler, code etc.
    adwade, whynot and AndyB like this.
  10. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    Perhaps "often" is the wrong word to use.

    The problem is the average forum user will not find the hidden Quote button and resort to other methods of highlighting quoted text. They resort to using bold, italics or using the quote character, all these make the post very difficult to read. In addition when the Quote button is not used, when a post is replied to the quoted text becomes part of the quote in the new post and it becomes very confusing what has been quoted and what is the authors own words.
    Dylan V, thomas1, imthebest and 2 others like this.
  11. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    Don't forget to Like the first post so the XenForo team can identify this issue as important.
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  12. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    I think this is a good point as well. The people here on xf are forum admins, for the most part we have a good idea how to use most aspects of the software. For 90% of forum admins here, their users are not admins in their own right. The quote button isn't logically placed anymore. I tested it out on two non-tech savvy people. I asked them to quote a post. . . . they took ten minutes trying to find the quote button because it's not visible as a speech bubble (or other indicator). They didn't think to look inside the "insert" button (which until you mouse over it doesn't really indicate Insert anyway - it looks more like a wraparound option but that's another story entirely). Long story short, they ended up copying and pasting what they were quoting and typing in bold above it QUOTE:-
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  13. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Personally I'd rather have code back as I use that far more than quote.
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  14. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    I think they should all be unlumped together and have their own images :D
  15. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I agree but it was done due to width constraints on devices with narrow screens.
    Chris D likes this.
  16. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    Bah.. mobile styles.... let's just pretend they don't exist - they're more annoying than anything else ;)

    Seriously though... I'm less likely to use Undo/Redo and Use BB Code Editor buttons, than I am to use the ones in the Insert button..... I vote for lumping those ones together and freeing the others.

    Free Quote and Code buttons, I say! :D
  17. whynot

    whynot Well-Known Member

    Please do it.
    Some of my users had to type [ QUOTE] then [ /QUOTE] to quote some text.
  18. ge66

    ge66 Active Member

    I am for hiding Text Color, Font Size and Font Family under one button, maybe put Underline there to as I think it shouldn't be used as it can be mistaken for a link.
    Outdent and Indent could be hidden aswell maybe under Alignment. I think Quote, Code and Strike-through should be more visible than the earlier mentioned buttons.
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  19. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    You can easily rectify that by creating a thread and showing how so and so features work. :)
  20. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    That can be easily overcome, though.

    I recently released this add-on:

    It re-adds strikethrough to the main editor toolbar, but it also uses media queries to either show or hide the button vs the option in the drop down based on view width.

    That could be a very simple tactic to show more by default and push more into the drop down when screen real estate is less.
    cellarius, nrep, feldon30 and 3 others like this.

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