Since we are continuing:
What was intended to be rationale on why I cannot afford to invest heavily in XenForo until hys videos are posted has spiraled into certain people being rather defensive on what, to me, was an obvious and clear disingenuous response from Chris and is highlighting the core reason we are not releasing anything right now. Customers deserve an honest, transparent answer and that is my rationale which I fail to see what was unreasonable. I don't understand the hostile response from Chris but it's all too familiar on this forum. It's quite sad to see but my complaints I hope help change that. I think, in reality, constructive feedback really isn't appreciated at the moment, I'll stay quiet and eventually be moving on entirely. It's just a bit sad is all but I'll get over it. I've met amazing lifelong friends and colleagues here and am grateful to be a part of this space.
Given this stance from Chris I have a strong idea of what's in the next HYS videos anyways. For the record, any features added to XenForo save's money for all of us so please add away
. My involvement in XenForo for 12 years shows I'm no threat to XenForo. I am happy not selling licenses in any major capacity as I am now and being a regular license holder in most respects. I simply wished to share some thoughts, write some thought pieces, and who knows what.
Chris could have mentioned the pwa if he wasnt being disingenuous (btw UI.X had pwa support for at least two years prior to XF launch anyways, pwa is still not the point) He could have given more than a day to let us know before launching all the features in 2.1 that caused us to start over with almost our entire addon product line. Private messages and reports that I send to staff could go with even the slightest response or even sign of kindness. Threads I post could do without being closed unceremoniously. When the same ol XenForo forum boys come in with their broken record responses some level of moderation to keep things civil would be nice, (they've ruined this community fyi) my team members who donated their editing, planning, and hosting time could go with being respected and replied to (the main reason I decided to leave Insights, among other reasons). Some sign of solidarity with people who have supported this software for so many years could I don't know be worthwhile?
XenForo didn't become the most popular commerical forum software on it's own, it was this entire community particularly the third party developers (of which I personally am a mere theme designer originally mind you
- we maybe dont deserve as much credit
) and I certainly don't mean me, I mean the pioneers who helped move people from VB here and we'll they seem to mostly be gone now.
I wouldn't have gone into some of these issues if this issue was treated in any normal way and I'm now indirectly invited to respond to this thread instead. There is truth, strong truth, in what I have said though. People can believe my perspective and experience or go with the status quo and typical defenses. I am a mere customer and heavy supporter and investor into the XenForo space and deserve to not be attacked when I respond to the provable reasons why I don't wish to release the feeds products which people have continually asked for. The fact I have been personally attacked by official XenForo staff and official XenForo discord clique is profoundly troubling.
A private message or email goes a long way fellas. Perhaps my opinion of what community is is just that far off and away different.
I'll share more of my perspective some other time and certainly some other place. Meanwhile since I assume emails will be ignored, I'd like to request for at least the third time that this thread be moved on topic or closed (assuming that is still standard procedure) If neither please delete my first post at least. I always welcome a message from anyone but I do need to be moving on as I've said what I've come to say.
In closing, I do wish XenForo the best. Truly. I wouldn't be here if I didn't. Hopefully some of my ideas here get implemented. Hopefully others have a better experience than I have had. I have strong admiration in @Kier
as people I looked up to as a kid to now. We see differently and that is ok (someone made a nice quote on that). I look forward to seeing what 2022 brings xf and will be watching with the rest.