Looking for feedback: A new look at forum user experience

Mr Lucky

Well-known member
Ill try to make more animated gifs showing precisely what Im referring to next time
I think they could be more useful if they weren't going so fast.

This one I didn't understand, it looks like stock xenforo reactions so I wondered what is new or different about it

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NetDoc

Active member
Forums have tried to play in the sandbox by making it easy for users
Again, you missed the point. That's OK, perhaps it's a point that you don't need to get.

If I go on a dive boat in the Keys, I'm going to get harangued about posting on FB and TA. They push me to push them. Their returns will be minimal because there's just no Google-fu associated with FB. In fact, I've never heard anyone say "I'm going to FaceBook my next destination!"

They Google it. Too often, we go after the end-user who has no advertising budget, while we're ignoring the very people who can send divers my way and benefit a lot more from that. I'm trying to get to the dive-ops and manufacturers with limited success. The one thing I haven't been able to give them is something that would make their jobs a bit easier, allow them their FB fantasies, but still get them to promote content on ScubaBoard. That's the magic brush I want. I want a way for them to leverage their time on ScubaBoard and reach all the platforms, including Google-fu. I've wanted this for 20+ years.

My Google-fu is the only thing that keeps me alive. and relevant. Without it, I would wither and fold. You might want me to just give up, but I'm not into that at all. ScubaBoard has always been an experiment and I have fun figuring this all out. Hey, you don't understand the nuance here or see it as a benefit to you: fine. So, ignore me and my little pipe dream. The Tom Sawyer approach has been my Social Media guide for two decades now. It works better if you give them the tools (brush) to do your work. Make it fun and even the laziest of users will join right in.
 

Max Fridman

Well-known member
Again, you missed the point. That's OK, perhaps it's a point that you don't need to get.

If I go on a dive boat in the Keys, I'm going to get harangued about posting on FB and TA. They push me to push them. Their returns will be minimal because there's just no Google-fu associated with FB. In fact, I've never heard anyone say "I'm going to FaceBook my next destination!"

They Google it. Too often, we go after the end-user who has no advertising budget, while we're ignoring the very people who can send divers my way and benefit a lot more from that. I'm trying to get to the dive-ops and manufacturers with limited success. The one thing I haven't been able to give them is something that would make their jobs a bit easier, allow them their FB fantasies, but still get them to promote content on ScubaBoard. That's the magic brush I want. I want a way for them to leverage their time on ScubaBoard and reach all the platforms, including Google-fu. I've wanted this for 20+ years.

My Google-fu is the only thing that keeps me alive. and relevant. Without it, I would wither and fold. You might want me to just give up, but I'm not into that at all. ScubaBoard has always been an experiment and I have fun figuring this all out. Hey, you don't understand the nuance here or see it as a benefit to you: fine. So, ignore me and my little pipe dream. The Tom Sawyer approach has been my Social Media guide for two decades now. It works better if you give them the tools (brush) to do your work. Make it fun and even the laziest of users will join right in.

I don't understand, basically you want a way so your users can share their discussions on your forum easily maybe on thread creation?
 

Oersted

Member
Presenting the Feeds interface as the forum's landing page will only confuse and frustrate our legacy users, and honestly, we have never had complaints about newer, younger members finding content, or contributing their own. That is why I feel Feeds would work fantastic as a replacement for Recent, What's New, etc.--it seems ideal for that in our situation.
Feeds has the option to include a "Forum list" tab, which gives you the normal XF forum list page. You can make that the default tab for all users. Your users can then manually change the default tab if they like.

Another option is to make the "Forum list" the default tab for all existing users, but make another tab the default for new users and guests.

So I think Feeds is friendly enough to the legacy users who can basically ignore the various feeds entirely if they like.
 

NetDoc

Active member
I don't understand, basically you want a way so your users can share their discussions on your forum easily maybe on thread creation?
Are they users? Yes. But they are also Scuba professionals catering to Scuba divers. I want to make it easier for the instructor to post about his classes, for the dive guide to share his underwater pics... and for THEM to push the rank and file divers to my site. I have plenty of professionals on my site, but it's so far been too cumbersome for them to use me as their PRIMARY social media platform to get them to post a lot. They are the influencers in my industry. Every diver idolizes them, their gear, and their lifestyle. My traffic would grow as they start to use my platform. Without the easy brush, that's nigh on to imposible.
 

Dixie McCall

Well-known member
Hey @Mike Creuzer I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on the recent Facebook announcement and their future tech plans as it relates to forums and the viability of the standard forum format?

Thank you and I hope you're doing great!
 

Mike Creuzer

Well-known member
Hey @Mike Creuzer I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on the recent Facebook announcement and their future tech plans as it relates to forums and the viability of the standard forum format?

Thank you and I hope you're doing great!
Hey thanks! Hope you're doing well also!

We all like to hate Facebook. They are an easy target, in fact I find a lot of people push whatever social issues, relationship issues, anxieties etc onto Facebook in general as a scapegoat. If we stop and recognize that if not the current Facebook then some other company will be playing the role Facebook is doing then I suppose we can start to see it more as the tool it really is rather than an abstraction of society itself. And when we do that we can all determine if its the right tool for us. They were one of the first so yes they have a leg up indeed, but others will come. And others will, and do, have the same issues. I do theorize that attacking the root of this, ie perhaps not having a company at the heart of any social platform, is the true solution, but perhaps for another day. Something Im quite curious about and will share more at some point as I learn more. But moving on.

I mean even look here at XenForo.com's community forums. Scale this up into the billions and I dont think this would be any better than Facebook, arguably quite worse. It has nothing to do with the tools, or whatever else, and everything to do with perception, emotions and how people feel when they are on a platform, who is there with them, whether they are making money or prospering there, etc. You can find that anywhere: school, work, the park, online forums, facebook as it is, and yes the metaverse :p. If you as an individual do not find that the love is there and that you don't wish to entertain, learn, socialize in that space, then you won't and I highly suspect that means there are plenty of others like you. Enough people share that opinion and the dynamic shifts entirely.

And therein lies the power of the internet I suppose.

In summary, while I personally believe in the opposite almost literally as what Facebook is proposing, I won't not give it a chance just because I think I know better than everyone else. If its great, fantastic. If its not, then we'll all know soon enough.
 

Freddie

Active member
When it comes to Gen Z, using my own children as markers, Reddit is where their toe-dipping into forums starts and ends. I really don't believe anything you do with the forum interface is going to change that. Marketing a forum to them is going to continue to be a crapshoot in my opinion.

Millenials and on down can see the value of a forum is contained in the wealth of specific information that the forum caters to and a properly fostered community. I believe that Gen Z will come to appreciate this as they age and their worldview adjusts.

There will always exist a market for a targeted forum. One where an invested owner stamps an attractive personality over the enterprise. Where an active moderation team fosters an inclusive community.

We should continue to move the interface to what everyone has become accustomed to interacting with on their phone. It's not a dumbing down, but rather playing catch up with what is now popular, across all age groups. Just like you can't strike a new word from a dictionary because you don't like it, you can't control where smartphones have taken us, how people prefer to interface.
 

Frode789

Well-known member
I think this is a very important topic. For my case, Reddit is definitely the number one competitor. It's so easy and fast to find new content.. Especially from mobile. XF on mobile is definitely behind there.. I use Reddit a lot myself.
I think we really need a proper "feed page" with all content types (filter if desired), real time live updates, content easily upvoted (liked) from feed page, easy to create new content directly from this page etc.. Happy to see @Kier sharing some of these UX challenges, hopefully they have something cool in store for us in XF 2.3 =)
 
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