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Licensing: Development board, Selling license, Renewal

Discussion in 'XenForo Pre-Sales Questions' started by holder10, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. holder10

    holder10 Active Member


    before the storm begins tomorrow, I would like to use the calmness to ask three questions about the licensing system.

    1) If I own one license and use it for a live forum, am I allowed to make some kind of 'internal development board', maybe for style development, as a playground or whatever. If there is some rule like that, what are the details?

    2) Are we allowed to sell the licenses we buy during the early-adaptor-sale without restrictions?

    3) So there will be some kind of renewal and reactivation fees. What exactly do you need to renew your license for? Do I need to do so in order to have access to the support forum (forum, not ticket support)? What about bug fixes or security patches?

    Thanks a lot everyone, really looking forward to tomorrow!

  2. Lycaon

    Lycaon Well-Known Member

  3. holder10

    holder10 Active Member

    1) Great, but I would like to know a few details then: Can I only maintain one development board, how many people / team members are allowed, etc.?
    3) Sorry, but I can't really find an answer to my question there?

  4. Lycaon

    Lycaon Well-Known Member

  5. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    1 license permits you to install it on 1 live site and 1 local installation for development purposes.

    Point 3 will be clarified by Ashley soon.
  6. holder10

    holder10 Active Member

    Thanks, I know that part very well by now. :D

    Still, I can't find answers to my questions there.

    Edit: Okay, thanks Brogan. :)
  7. Shamil

    Shamil Well-Known Member

    Why not a remote, non-public accessible test installation?
  8. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    To clarify.

  9. cmeinck

    cmeinck Well-Known Member

    Can I easily transfer that license? Let's say I want to create a beta installation for my members at beta.mysite.com. If and when I migrate my vBulletin install to XF, then I would close beta.mysite.com and that particular XF installation would appear at mysite.com/forum

    Just to clarify, I am allowing members to get their feet wet with XF in the beta section.
  10. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Strictly speaking you're not transferring the license.
    You will still own the license, you're just changing the URL it is used on.

    So yes, that is possible.
  11. Ashley

    Ashley Business Guy Staff Member

    Keep in mind that XenForo is continually evolving and new features and functionality are being added all the time. Purchasing your license provide you with the latest version and support for 12 months. Renewing your license means that you will extend this access for an additional 12 months. We expect to offer access to bug fixes and security patches for all third point release. So if your license is active at the time 1.1.0 is released you will have access to 1.1.x even if you license has expired. Access to support and customer privileged areas is dependent on the license being active.
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  12. Ashley

    Ashley Business Guy Staff Member

    Transferring your license relates to a change of the owner of the license. The license requires that it has the URL of where it is being used and that can be changed if the license becomes used at a different address.
  13. cmeinck

    cmeinck Well-Known Member

    Many of us are probably purchasing licenses for future use, in order to take advantage of the launch day offer. It's hard to predict the future, but lets say XenForo 2.0 is released next fall. Will my renewal price = the purchase price? Is the pricing model similar to vB 3.x or vB4? When vB releases vB5, I have to purchase an entirely new license.
  14. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

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  15. Mr_Bob

    Mr_Bob Well-Known Member

    Nope. You purchase a license, and you can run the software forever. However, every 12 months, you'll need to pay in $40 for additional updates (although you can skip these, and pay a re-activation fee later).

    Think of it this way (Example only):

    XF 1.0 Gold is out, thus the 12 month counter begins. During this time, XF 1.1, 1.4, 1.7, and, WOW, even 2.0 is released! You get all these at no extra charge with your license. In month 13 after you purchase your license, XF 2.1 is released. To get XF 2.1, if you have not already done so, you need to renew your download access for $40, which will extend your download access for an additional 12 months. You can, however, still run the software, and I'm assuming download all versions for which you had download access for (was the way VB ran things under the old, pre-IB, team).
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  16. FreshFroot

    FreshFroot Well-Known Member

    hmm I'm not too found of this structure. I was considering buying a 2nd license, but this sounds a bit harsh.
    I don't agree with users having to pay yearly even if they don't want too. Technically that IS what is happening.

    This had really discouraged me from buying my 2nd license. I was debating it, but I believe after this reactivation fee issue. I will not be getting a 2nd license.
  17. bookmark

    bookmark Well-Known Member

    Right now,I haven't get the announcement from xenforo stuff about the reactivation fee.Is it out?
  18. FreshFroot

    FreshFroot Well-Known Member

    It's not offical, but Ashely mentioned it could be in place. Or he at least had an idea for it.

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