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less and less free addon?

Kintaro

Well-known member
#1
is it just me or new free addons release rate is dropping?
(Waindigo => ThemeHouse excluded)

I don't see this as a very negative thing... but is it happening?
 

sbj

Well-known member
#5
I think in general addon release rates are dropping, not only for free.
It seems everyone is waiting for the 2.0 because then most of the things will need a rewrite anyway.
Only AndyB and Xon deliver excellent free add-ons these days. That is also very alarming and I agree with you @TO.
 

Ernest L. Defoe

Well-known member
#6
It seems everyone is waiting for the 2.0 because then most of the things will need a rewrite anyway.
I'm pretty sure you answered it right there. With 2.0 so close in sure that's why there are less and less addon releases cause why make an addon that will need a rewrite or may get included in core.
 

FredC

Well-known member
#7
Not much money to be made if you give all your stuff away for free. I suppose it makes sense that as the coders become more confident in their own code they would begin to charge for their work with increased frequency.
 

Mike Creuzer

Well-known member
#15
Paying for an add-on by no means guarantees support or ongoing development. I've learned that the hard way.
Well think of it this way. If I sell you a shirt, but a better fabric comes out, should I be expected to update your shirt for you? Software from large companies sends out (sometimes necessary) updates from time to time. But that concept should not be applied to everything 'digital'. There is a lot of work that goes into products, regardless of whether they get updates or not.

I know you aren't necessarily saying you are upset, Im sorry to hear a developer did not give you updates. But I just feel like a product should be stand alone. You are not paying for updates, you're paying for use of the product. Updates are nice, but shouldn't be seen as mandatory.
 

jauburn

Well-known member
#16
I know you aren't necessarily saying you are upset, Im sorry to hear a developer did not give you updates. But I just feel like a product should be stand alone. You are not paying for updates, you're paying for use of the product. Updates are nice, but shouldn't be seen as mandatory.
I'm not or was not upset. I was just stating an observation from experience.

However, updates are more than just "nice." They're often vital when, for example, xenforo requires a change or when one experiences a bug that prevents one from using the add-on the way it was advertised.

Before I lay out money for an add-on, I study the comments and history closely to try to determine how responsive the developer has been to customer needs.
 

wang

Well-known member
#18
I'm not or was not upset. I was just stating an observation from experience.

However, updates are more than just "nice." They're often vital when, for example, xenforo requires a change or when one experiences a bug that prevents one from using the add-on the way it was advertised.

Before I lay out money for an add-on, I study the comments and history closely to try to determine how responsive the developer has been to customer needs.
I agree with this. Updates are vital to add ons especially in 3 cases. The first and the most important, when a security issue is discovered in the add on. The second case is when a bug is discovered that renders the add on useless. And as last, when xenforo has reelased a version, which will require changes in the code of the add for it to work with the new version.
 

Martok

Well-known member
#19
However, updates are more than just "nice." They're often vital when, for example, xenforo requires a change or when one experiences a bug that prevents one from using the add-on the way it was advertised
I agree with this. Updates are vital to add ons especially in 3 cases. The first and the most important, when a security issue is discovered in the add on. The second case is when a bug is discovered that renders the add on useless. And as last, when xenforo has reelased a version, which will require changes in the code of the add for it to work with the new version.
It's fair enough to expect updates in these cases for paid add-ons. However, some people expect continued development of the add-on at the one-off cost that they pay, and would expect the add-on to be rewritten for XenForo 2.0 at no additional cost. I think this is unreasonable. When an add-on is purchased, you should expect nothing more than you get at that time (unless the author has stated otherwise). You should not expect additional functionality to be added year on year all for a one-off charge. You don't see Microsoft or other software developers continually enhancing their products for a one-time cost.

For ongoing development of add-ons we should be expecting to pay an ongoing cost ie an annual renewal, just as we have from XenForo itself and from many other software developers. If add-on authors can't make some money for their time out of their work, or in some cases make a living from it, then there's no incentive for them to carry on maintaining and developing their add-ons. The sooner we as consumers and they as developers grasp this the better.
 

wang

Well-known member
#20
It's fair enough to expect updates in these cases for paid add-ons. However, some people expect continued development of the add-on at the one-off cost that they pay, and would expect the add-on to be rewritten for XenForo 2.0 at no additional cost. I think this is unreasonable. When an add-on is purchased, you should expect nothing more than you get at that time (unless the author has stated otherwise). You should not expect additional functionality to be added year on year all for a one-off charge. You don't see Microsoft or other software developers continually enhancing their products for a one-time cost.

For ongoing development of add-ons we should be expecting to pay an ongoing cost ie an annual renewal, just as we have from XenForo itself and from many other software developers. If add-on authors can't make some money for their time out of their work, or in some cases make a living from it, then there's no incentive for them to carry on maintaining and developing their add-ons. The sooner we as consumers and they as developers grasp this the better.
I agree with you in regard to the continued development of the add on, the expectation, the new functionalities and the re-written part. What I was talking about in my previous post, was about the updates of add ons in general. And the way I see it, it is essential for an add on developer to keep his work updated, especially in the first 2 scenarios that I mentioned above.