Can vB3.8 be still considered modern?

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vBulletin 3.x cannot be considered modern, because it is now being steered by people who created the disaster that is vB4.

How so? they haven't touched vB3 really.. just fixed bugs and added patches. Otherwise vB3 is the same creation Kier, Mike and the rest made before IB.
 
Trent I agree with you 100% about the mod explosion, but I do think the pending litigation is a large factor to everyone involved, I feel a lot of buyers are holding back, and so are a lot of developers, until these legal matters are settled.

Same here. The mod explosion will happen when this stuff is all over with and done.

I know a lot of people holding back or are scared to throw $100 or 140 for XF. Just because they think that it could be lost money.

The truth is it.. it's a risk we all have taken. We don't know the full story, but I assume we should be okay.

As for vB3 being modern.. it's not modern, but it's still one of the BEST platforms to use out there. But I think XF is starting to push us into a new era, where things are going to be MUCH different. And that means we will see a lot of unique and different ideas, which we may not be accustomed to just yet. So for now, I love vB3, but obviously the future in my mind is going to be XF and hopefully some competitors.
 
I know a lot of people holding back or are scared to throw $100 or 140 for XF. Just because they think that it could be lost money.
I don't think it's the $100 that is holding people back. It's more the time involved in transitioning off their current forum software into xenForo. Right now, most xenForo activity is coming from the enthusiasts. When the big boards gain enough confidence in the xenForo platform, I expect to see a mad dash to ditch their current setup for a more scalable, easy to use, modular one, i.e., xenForo.
 
I don't think it's the $100 that is holding people back. It's more the time involved in transitioning off their current forum software into xenForo. Right now, most xenForo activity is coming from the enthusiasts. When the big boards gain enough confidence in the xenForo platform, I expect to see a mad dash to ditch their current setup for a more scalable, easy to use, modular one, i.e., xenForo.

Ya that could be it too. XF is young, so I expect some to doubt it. But I think we here feel that XF will prove itself in the future.
 
Same here. The mod explosion will happen when this stuff is all over with and done.

I know a lot of people holding back or are scared to throw $100 or 140 for XF. Just because they think that it could be lost money.
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. If everyone holds off from buying it, then there will be nothing to buy.

This legal situation isn't going to go away overnight.

The whole point of the Beta is for mod developers to be working NOW so that when 1.0 hits, their mods are ready.
 
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. If everyone holds off from buying it, then there will be nothing to buy.

This legal situation isn't going to go away overnight.

The whole point of the Beta is for mod developers to be working NOW so that when 1.0 hits, their mods are ready.


Maybe, but I know some hold off till one of the last beta's. Otherwise you have to modify your code each beta release. That is if there are major changes. Though I guess there would only be minor ones, which the coder could adjust too.
 
Well, this is why I have said in other threads that XF lawyers have a counter claim that IB has done malicious damage to XF with false claims, there are many that will do nothing until this legal case is over, so there is your evidence.
 
alot of people were hesitant on the uptake for vb as well. many dismissed it as a ripoff product, but once it got traction...
well, you know how the story goes ;)
 
vB has all of their customers in a holding pattern, that goes to show you the kind of company you are dealing with, one that is not in the least worried about the interests of their clients, but one that would use customers as pawns to fraudulently pump up their balance sheet.

Many of us are stuck because we will not buy from them any longer, I will not accept their update files due to the fact that you have to accept new license terms to do so.

Now they have held a lot of us hostage with these lawsuits in two countries keeping a lot of vB owners sitting on the sidelines and in holding patterns, that is certainly not the direction any great marketing company would take, but as we all know IB is one of the worst marketing companies on earth.

The definition of marketing as all old pros know is: meeting the needs of the customer, IB has no idea how to do this under Brisco's direction because all good old Bob wants to do is line his own pockets.
 
It is an epic thriller for those who like disaster stories, a Titanic one indeed that still haunts us all now and into the far future, and the story is just starting, it is not over by any means.
 
I believe 3.x can still show some class. Outdated in terms of admincp and some user experience, yes. But it can still give something if you really work on it, what better example from the website in my signature? :)
 
vB 3 was always a great script, but things changed when Brisco purchased the company.

I see you are using vB Advanced on that great looking portal page, that is THE BEST use of CMPS that I have ever seen.

Great job.
 
The bottom line is, vB4 is not a reason to move from vB3, the only one's who moved are folks who were worried about being left in the dust (or fell for the Brisco/Ray Morgan smokescreen), in the end I guess we who are running on vB3.8 (and abhor vB 4), or whatever vB 3 version they are running will eventually be forced to move to another script.

How long can we hold on ??

Another 10 years ??
 
vB 3 was always a great script, but things changed when Brisco purchased the company.

I see you are using vB Advanced on that great looking portal page, that is THE BEST use of CMPS that I have ever seen.

Great job.

Things changed.. but not for vB3.

vB3 is still vB3. They didn't make many changes to it at all.
 
The bottom line is, vB4 is not a reason to move from vB3, the only one's who moved are folks who were worried about being left in the dust (or fell for the Brisco/Ray Morgan smokescreen), in the end I guess we who are running on vB3.8 (and abhor vB 4), or whatever vB 3 version they are running will eventually be forced to move to another script.

How long can we hold on ??

Another 10 years ??

Most people using vB3 will move within 5 yrs for sure.

vB4 users I can't say, because if IB some how manages to fix things. It will make people want to try it again.

Personally, I think in the long run if XF keeps things up AND we get a lot of mods ported to XF. Then XF will do quite well in the future.

XF is made for the future and it has those elements in mind. Which is why I think it will do well.

As most people said... vB4 is nothing special than vB3 changed up a bit. I really thought vB4 was going to be something different. It's just vB3 overloaded with unnecessary things, which I could've done by going to vBorg and adding plugins.

XF has provided quite a few things, which I wanted and they are STOCK and COME with XF. Unlike vB where you need to get a plugin running.

At least this way I know the devs have optimized their features, where as a plugin it's up to the developer.
 
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