blackfriday
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Hi,
Is XenForo going to be sold at a special price during Black Friday?
Regards,
Me
Is XenForo going to be sold at a special price during Black Friday?
Regards,
Me
Black Friday: XenForo special pricing?
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Sylar
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Just to say the same thing again? Slavik has pretty much covered it, so why would you try again to undermine the great work of the developers again next year?
Morgain
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Yeah, in the UK we used to have a harvest festival - I can remember taking part in them at school. It sort of passes without notice these days. I guess nobody thought to commercialise it.
Steve the harvest festival is alive and well but not celebrated so late in the year. I don't know what crops Americans gather in in November? Harvest festival in northern zones is normally celebrated between August 1st (first cereal crop) and some time in September.
I and everyone I know participated in its ceremonies which as I said are a living tradition still going strong.
Now that IS an important date. Unfortunately the poppy remembrance has ben hijacked by the warmakers to celebrate the military instead of saying "Never again!" as the original 11/11 tradition did. But at least there is the white poppy now as well much more part of the original ideals of WWI survivors.
Forsaken
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Black Friday isn't a holiday... Its a commercial opportunity, and this is to actually deal with issues that lead to injuries and deaths.
Taylor J
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Why open one next year? Ashley even said they won't be doing anything for Black Friday, which probably means nothing for next years either.
Peggy
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Forsaken
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Wording before your edit looked completely differentUh, I would suggest that you read my post again.
I was talking about Thanksgiving.
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jadmperry
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There is a measure of subjectivity, obviously, in how YOU view Veterans Day (as its called in the US). However, the idea is not to celebrate the military. It's to honor the sacrifices of those killed in military service. I don't know if you think this means a celebration of war. If you do, then I disagree with your view. I can't change how you choose to view it, but I don't see anything being hijacked by anyone with this holiday.
jadmperry
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Well, let me add a caveat. Yesterday, I was listening to the radio and hear several adds from large retailers and car dealerships offering Veteran's Day sales. This was not, of course, something new this year. But, it made me think it was kind of strange to offer everyone a discount in honor of Veterans. I am not talking from a marketing or sales point of view, I mean from a logic point of view.
So, to that extent, I think the marketers may be at least trying to hijack the day. But, overall, it is one of the least commercial holidays. I suspect this is because it is awkward and strange to commercialize the day.
Morgain
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I don't have anything to do with Veterans Day so I have no view on it. I did once work to help American vets in recovery from the Vietnam war but I don't recall them being interested in a national poppy celebration. They were far too angry at their government for that.
Subjective means your opinion, my opinion or others' opinions. To be objective is to participate in a large consensus so complelling that no evidence can go against it.
I was speaking of the origins of the custom of the Remembrance poppy.
The WWI survivor soldiers who introduced the custom wanted it to say NEVER AGAIN. In the same way they named WWI the "war to end all wars" - this latter idea is better known.
"NEVER AGAIN!" was certainly BECAUSE of the ugly and wasteful deaths of so many in that war and in others.
It was somewhat more obvious in that war how soldiers' lives are not perceived as important (cf. Haig and the cynical and deliberate dumping of mewn's lives into slaughter). Since then the generals are a bit more careful to make it look good.
Far from seeing their fellow soldiers' deaths as heroic and honorable in terms of dying in uniform, these deaths (and the maiming of so many) were seen as pointless and brutal on the part of those in charge. The rank and file at the time deeply resented their officers and high command. Not surprising as the country had been on the verge of revolution as that way broke out (not a well known fact).
Naturally this point of view in disapproving of the war leaders was unpopular among various powerful authorities whose status and wealth derive from war. So the custom was not allowed to develop as originally intended. Therefore today the poppy is seen merely to represent the heroism of dead soldiers.
The white poppy arose later, and is also not identical to the original aims. It honours ALL victims of war, not just dead soldiers but maimed soldiers AND civilians.
This is very unpopular with authorities who still won't allow war widows to take part in the national Remembrance ceremony. Of course if we honour the white poppy we are looking at huge numbers of victims where civilians greatly outnumber the military. Not a comfy idea.
Each is free to wear the red or the white. But both mean "NEVER AGAIN!"
Vicros
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Well..I am a Veteran myself and i really enjoy this holiday. I enlisted into the U.S. ARMY in 2o05 and i was wounded by the enemy in 2006 during my first tour in Iraq and am still PROUDLY serving my country today. I am also set to deploy again to Afghanistan in a few months. I tell all of my fellow brothers that i thank them for serving with me and making the sacrifice that so few are willing to make. I lost 4 of my best friends in 2006 and i don't think they died for nothing, we all know what were fighting for and they made the ultimate sacrifice to protect this nations freedom. So lets not talk negatively about veterans day please..
Cal
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Veterans day is not a commercial holiday and as an active member of the military I resent that sentiment.
jadmperry
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You may be confused about what I wrote (if you think I meant that it should be or is a commercial holiday). I certainly was not suggesting that it should be a commercial holiday. I was actually being critical of the commercialization of the day. It should not just be a "day off" or an occasion for a sale. For way too many folks, that is what it is.
Thank you for your present service. I served for 15 years in the US Army so you can probably assume that our views on this subject are probably fairly close.
Mike Hollis Jr
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You have to wonder why the stores haven't picked up on the fact that people are probably not buying before this Black Friday for the very reason that they know they're going to make huge savings by waiting
Or how they're still in business at all with the internet pricing out there, which is, for all intent and purpose, black friday pricing 365 days a year
Peggy
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lol I only changed a few words in the second line.Wording before your edit looked completely different
Peggy
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Actually, Memorial Day is to honor those who've been killed. Veterans Day is for the living who have, and are, serving in the military.
(According two my 2 veteran ex-hubbies)
blackfriday
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Close the damn thread, damn moderators.
jadmperry
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Actually, that is right...but my view is that it honors the sacrifices, too... And giving your life is the ultimate sacrifice. The big thing that concerns me is when people look at it as only a day off. The other thing is when people conflate disagreement with wars or policy and the disciplined obedient execution of orders by Servicemembers.
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