Barefooting

I figure I would let everyone who follows here in this thread that I have not put on footwear in 3 days (minus house slippers I bring with me for stops at gas stations and such where it is required) but I do have to say while you are bringing up knees that I do have water on both my knees from martial arts abuse and more specifically hyperextension from spinning back heels and the like (such as this kick which is a simple visual example of how and where the injury can happen though this was just a clean kick in the video) and sometimes weight isn't necessarily the issue though it can be. I myself have shed 35 pounds from when I was at my fittest and now after losing a lot of my muscle mass, the strain is greater on my joints under normal stress loads.

So far after three sans footwear days I can say I do have less pain in my knees and have a greater ability to bend my legs at the knee back and forth with full range of motion. I won't say I have no pain...but I am comfortable in my own skin so to speak at this point 3 days into it so chalk up another one for the feet.

Shoes should be treated as umbrellas for your feet, save them for those rainy days.
 
Consider yourself lucky you can feel what is beneath your feet, I don't have much sensation of pain in my feet other than your obvious jamming a toe which isn't really the same but anyways yeah...even though gravel doesn't bother me I can tell you what does. Those little maple tree helicopter seeds (isn't nature awesome....I mean c'mon seeds with wings)...when you have thosands of them in your driveway and you go to get the mail you come back with all sorts of crap stuck to your feet. I was airbrushing in the garage and the newspaper I had down while spraying was no longer tacky..but my feet were and I noticed when I dragged a bunch of stuff with me :rolleyes:...it's like clock work every year with those things around here.
 
Good for you Ant :D

I only ever wear shoes when going out to the shops or whatever, never at home! Great to see you embracing the free footsies movement! :D
 
EQnoble said:
So far after three sans footwear days I can say I do have less pain in my knees and have a greater ability to bend my legs at the knee back and forth with full range of motion.
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That's far more likely a function of you wearing shoes that didn't actually support your feet (user error) than a verdict about shoes in general.

Personally I think pretty much everything is good in moderation, I take issue with folks who are what I'd call crusaders for a cause simply because there is no cause that can be unconditionally supported under all circumstances. I don't wear shoes at home either, why would I, it's a controlled environment, that doesn't mean I should go out and not wear shoes outside the home/property. Nevermind practical issues like "no shoes, no shirt, no service".

Reality is moderate, extremes only have statistical meaning.

Just because one <insert appropriate adjective of your choice here> person finds excitement or solace in something doesn't mean society as a whole should follow that path.

Likewise this exercise in peer pressure is rather embarrassing.
Premise: Kier is cool.
Premise: Kier doesn't wear shoes.
Premise: Random people in the Internet think it's cool that Kier doesn't wear shoes.
Desire: I want to be cool.
Desire: I want random people on the Internet to think that I am cool.
Resolution: I will stop wearing shoes.
:rolleyes:

re: shoes for the poor in the 3rd world
One could argue that manufacturers and retailers want to sell shoes to those who can't even afford the food needed to get them through the day, no matter how unreasonable that argument would be.
Alternatively one could consider that when one goes barefoot in the 1st world, and one steps into something nasty that results in an infection, one just goes to the doc, get some pills, and move on with one's life. Those in the 3+ world don't have that luxury and simple medical conditions can easily become life threatening. One can insist on that they should go barefoot or one could argue that they are better off with some footwear that provides basic protection.

On the third side of that coin is that going barefoot in the 3rd world does provide at least some rudimentary population control.
 
Wow.. that's a whole lotta supposition going down there.

I think you will find that the thread was started by someone other than Kier, who was talking about thier shoelessness .. as are most of the people in here.

Although it is undeniable that Kier is a pretty cool guy, I doubt any of the people in here are in any way shape or form influenced or peer pressured into not wearing shoes. LOL

I haven't worn shoes except when absolutely necessary my entire life.. this for me is hardly new... same for most of the actual shoeless by choice people in this topic.

The fact that EQNoble has now tried going barefoot and has found it to be both enjoyable and beneficial should not be made light of. His experience is his experience, you cannot possibly impose your own value set on it.

Frankly trying to belittle someone and manipulate their viewpoint by claiming they are a victim of peer pressure is rather shallow.. don't you think.

The vast majority of the third world is shoeless btw.. you make some valid points in regards to the health care or lack their of, however most barefooted people are considerably more careful about where they place their feet for obvious reasons.

I suspect that a lot of the world's narrow minded anti barefoot thinking is to do with the automatic equation that barefoot = poverty.

Wear shoes or don't ... fortunately we have a choice in the developed world... choice that is, not peer pressure to be cool LOL
 
User said:
That's far more likely a function of you wearing shoes that didn't actually support your feet (user error) than a verdict about shoes in general.

Personally I think pretty much everything is good in moderation, I take issue with folks who are what I'd call crusaders for a cause simply because there is no cause that can be unconditionally supported under all circumstances. I don't wear shoes at home either, why would I, it's a controlled environment, that doesn't mean I should go out and not wear shoes outside the home/property. Nevermind practical issues like "no shoes, no shirt, no service".

Reality is moderate, extremes only have statistical meaning.

Just because one <insert appropriate adjective of your choice here> person finds excitement or solace in something doesn't mean society as a whole should follow that path.

Likewise this exercise in peer pressure is rather embarrassing.
Premise: Kier is cool.
Premise: Kier doesn't wear shoes.
Premise: Random people in the Internet think it's cool that Kier doesn't wear shoes.
Desire: I want to be cool.
Desire: I want random people on the Internet to think that I am cool.
Resolution: I will stop wearing shoes.
:rolleyes:

re: shoes for the poor in the 3rd world
One could argue that manufacturers and retailers want to sell shoes to those who can't even afford the food needed to get them through the day, no matter how unreasonable that argument would be.
Alternatively one could consider that when one goes barefoot in the 1st world, and one steps into something nasty that results in an infection, one just goes to the doc, get some pills, and move on with one's life. Those in the 3+ world don't have that luxury and simple medical conditions can easily become life threatening. One can insist on that they should go barefoot or one could argue that they are better off with some footwear that provides basic protection.

On the third side of that coin is that going barefoot in the 3rd world does provide at least some rudimentary population control.
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Funny fact: You're not the end all source of knowledge, quit acting like it.

If your feet were were incapable of bearing a heavy weight, people in history would have probably not walked. Obesity was common just as much in the renaissance as it is now. The ancient Greeks and Romans weren't all known for their sculpted figure. While obesity wasn't wide spread due to poverty and other issues, that doesn't mean there were no fat people, and your assumption so that the human body is incapable of handling more weight is rather ridiculous.

The only time arch support and such is absolutely necessary is if there is a pre-existing condition that requires it. You can continue to argue, but quite honestly unless you can show some form of medical license that'll make you an expert on the matter I'll continue to believe my own experience, and the experience of people who have actually gone barefoot for most of their lives (I only wear shoes when necessary or when relating to business or work).
 
Ok get ready for itemized list of tearing your nothingness apart here...while we are talking out of our rears here...seeing that you obviously did not grasp the whole of my post there or most likely didn't read it as it was written.
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That's far more likely a function of you wearing shoes that didn't actually support your feet (user error) than a verdict about shoes in general.
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Did you ask me what I wear for footwear...no. It's far more like I have injuries in my knees exactly like I stated. I studied martial arts like my post said. Here in case you don't understand martial arts or the term here is the lighter side of things gained by training all controllable muscle groups
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User said:
Personally I think pretty much everything is good in moderation, I take issue with folks who are what I'd call crusaders for a cause simply because there is no cause that can be unconditionally supported under all circumstances. I don't wear shoes at home either, why would I, it's a controlled environment, that doesn't mean I should go out and not wear shoes outside the home/property. Nevermind practical issues like "no shoes, no shirt, no service".

Reality is moderate, extremes only have statistical meaning.

Just because one <insert appropriate adjective of your choice here> person finds excitement or solace in something doesn't mean society as a whole should follow that path.

Likewise this exercise in peer pressure is rather embarrassing.
Premise: Kier is cool.
Premise: Kier doesn't wear shoes.
Premise: Random people in the Internet think it's cool that Kier doesn't wear shoes.
Desire: I want to be cool.
Desire: I want random people on the Internet to think that I am cool.
Resolution: I will stop wearing shoes.
:rolleyes:
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Do you even know the half of what I do, no...you don't and before you get ready to type some wordy nothingness that has no purpose but to suppose that I kiss Kier's ass. Let me assure you
that I have no need to impress anyone unlike you with your obvous pole ride of a post. I am sure any who actually knows me here will tell you that I do not kiss any persons ass. If I was to be as suppositional as yourself I would say that you most likely responded the way you did because you didn't get enough of the good attention that you should have as a kid so now you have to take your frustration out on me. It will be ok lil johnny just hang in there.

User said:
re: shoes for the poor in the 3rd world
One could argue that manufacturers and retailers want to sell shoes to those who can't even afford the food needed to get them through the day, no matter how unreasonable that argument would be.
Alternatively one could consider that when one goes barefoot in the 1st world, and one steps into something nasty that results in an infection, one just goes to the doc, get some pills, and move on with one's life. Those in the 3+ world don't have that luxury and simple medical conditions can easily become life threatening. One can insist on that they should go barefoot or one could argue that they are better off with some footwear that provides basic protection.

On the third side of that coin is that going barefoot in the 3rd world does provide at least some rudimentary population control.
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You are pretty sick, you need help and should see that doctor you were talking about above. If you are going to respond to anything I say please read my entire post and digest it before you make a stupid remark to get some playtime or I will simply shoot down your rediculous remarks and clown you right back. I am sure that's what you want though so now that I have said this..I will ignore any further insults from you just on the merit that I could never get my head as far up my rear as you to try and understand where your coming from.

Good day to you kind troll.
 
So I made my first observation today on this "feet without shoes" situation, and thats how heavy footed everyone is when wearing shoes.

My house doesn't have a no shoes policy, but I don't wear them anyway once inside, I was doing a little work at the weekend and someone walked into my office (upstairs) and all I could notice is how they thumped around... to the point small objects on my desk were vibrating / moving, it was rather irritating now that i've noticed it.

I'm still not going anywhere public without shoes on though :D
 
Slavik said:
So I made my first observation today on this "feet without shoes" situation, and thats how heavy footed everyone is when wearing shoes.
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How have you compared the weight of the shod footfall to the unshod in order to make the observation?
 
Kier said:
How have you compared the weight of the shod footfall to the unshod in order to make the observation?
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Nope, however I just put my usual shoes onto a scale and they weigh 3.2 kg :)

I also informed people today that they would have to take their shoes off in the hallway, and the usual "thumping" around has all but disapeared.
 
Slavik said:
Nope, however I just put my usual shoes onto a scale and they weigh 3.2 kg :)

I also informed people today that they would have to take their shoes off in the hallway, and the usual "thumping" around has all but disapeared.
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3.2kg? :eek: What on earth are they made of?

Happy to hear you have the prospect of the sound of people padding around rather than clomping :)
 
Kier said:
3.2kg? :eek: What on earth are they made of?

Happy to hear you have the prospect of the sound of people padding around rather than clomping :)
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A big fat typo :) 2.3kg not 3.2 :D

And yes it is much nicer to not have the room shake when someone thunders in.
 
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