Any sort of roadmap for Xenforo 2.3 ?

[Chris D]

There’s a reason we stopped using it and, despite many years of improvements, it’s likely not a good fit for us.

 

[Suzanne O]

There’s a reason we stopped using it and, despite many years of improvements, it’s likely not a good fit for us.

Ok.
Is there anything you can do with this current one or does it cause some stuff ups to happen?
It might be better to go with something you absolutely dislike because of the coding factor.

Thinking something along the lines of the phpbb one where it's up your alley with that php code that you like to use.

Or you could take a look at this. https://www.smfpacks.com/wysiwyg/ found the advanced editor thing you might be able to look at.

 

[Chris D]

While I appreciate the ideas, we have it in hand, thank you.

 

[mjda]

I think y'all should take a look at using MS Word as the editor. It's really great. Should be easy enough to implement.

 

[Aivaras]

@Chris D,

When researching Froala’s alternatives and finally choosing one, please include in the testing criteria the alternative’s ability to correctly parse pastes from standalone text editors such as Open Office, Microsoft Word, Google Docs, and so forth. Froala is literally broken in that regard.

 

[Chris D]

Froala is supposed to be one of the market leaders in that kind of handling.

I think the harsh reality is that most editors can’t do it properly because the source formatting is so obnoxious and opinionated.

That being said; if you can upload some documents that are a good reference for testing we will keep it in mind.

 

[FTL]

I think the harsh reality is that most editors can’t do it properly because the source formatting is so obnoxious and opinionated.

Well, it certainly can't paste properly from Word. To get around this, I put Froala into pure text mode, paste the text, switch it back and then manually add back the formatting. A bit of a pita for sure.

 

[JamesBrown]

Well, it certainly can't paste properly from Word.

I copy my text in word. Then right click the word page and paste it back, paste special unformatted text. Then copy it again paste it into the editor, sounds long winded but it's quick enough, and works a treat

 

[Mendalla]

I think the harsh reality is that most editors can’t do it properly because the source formatting is so obnoxious and opinionated.

Indeed. My writing sites' old editor literally had a special Paste button just for Word and I still ended up using "Paste Unformatted/As Plain Text" half the time. Their current one is so simple that pasting unformatted is the default. If you want fancy formatting in a story (say for a poem) you're best to do it on the site after pasting.

 

[Chris D]

Again if anyone has any samples to share it would be useful for us to build up a collection to play around with.

 

[Aivaras]

@Chris D, I’ll prepare a test document, just give me some time (I’m in the middle of something).

 

[Aivaras]

Froala is supposed to be one of the market leaders in that kind of handling.

Marketing aside, Froala fails to parse pastes (e.g., body text and lists), while other online editors do just fine. This is what a simple list looks like on their current (!) public demo after pasting from Open Office:


But the discussion is no longer about Froala, so let’s move on.

I think the harsh reality is that most editors can’t do it properly because the source formatting is so obnoxious and opinionated.

Yes, especially in the case of proprietary formats (e.g., Microsoft Office). Perhaps the safest approach would be to choose the open document format ODF as an objective (standardized) point of reference in such tests. It is the format on which productivity suites like Open Office (OO) or Libre Office (LO) build their document format ODT.

First, ODF is an open format.

Second, it is compatible with HTML, in fact both OO and LO writers allow saving ODTs as HTMLs, as I did in the attached ZIP.

Thirdly, both Microsoft Word and Google Docs can open and save to ODF. That is to say, the latter can be effectively defaulted to when other formats fail to work.

That being said; if you can upload some documents that are a good reference for testing we will keep it in mind.

Please find attached an ODT and its HTML counterpart, containing the most basic paragraph and inline formatting properties. I hope you will find it useful when testing the text editor candidates.

 

[Mr Lucky]

Marketing aside, Froala fails to parse pastes (e.g., body text and lists), while other online editors do just fine. This is what a simple list looks like on their current (!) public demo after pasting from Open Office:

So here is a list directly Copy & Pasted from Mac Pages (excuse the Yorkshire):

• Where's tha bin.
• Will 'e 'eckerslike mardy bum bobbar.
• Face like a slapped arse soft lad dahn t'coil oil eeh wacken thi sen up soft southern pansy.
• Bobbar michael palin ah'll gi' thee a thick ear ne'ermind aye. Breadcake soft southern pansy tha daft apeth.
• Any rooad oop that's champion wacken thi sen up wacken thi sen up nay lad ah'll learn thi.
• God's own county nah then ne'ermind will 'e 'eckerslike ee by gum.
• Eeh appens as maybe appens as maybe ne'ermind. Th'art nesh thee is that thine be reet ee by gum.
• Sup wi' 'im shurrup.

Now that seems to work fine - this says more about the source than it does about the editor

But the discussion is no longer about Froala, so let’s move on.

Seems like it still is!

 

[btmgreg]

So here is a list directly Copy & Pasted from Mac Pages (excuse the Yorkshire):

• Where's tha bin.
• Will 'e 'eckerslike mardy bum bobbar.
• Face like a slapped arse soft lad dahn t'coil oil eeh wacken thi sen up soft southern pansy.
• Bobbar michael palin ah'll gi' thee a thick ear ne'ermind aye. Breadcake soft southern pansy tha daft apeth.
• Any rooad oop that's champion wacken thi sen up wacken thi sen up nay lad ah'll learn thi.
• God's own county nah then ne'ermind will 'e 'eckerslike ee by gum.
• Eeh appens as maybe appens as maybe ne'ermind. Th'art nesh thee is that thine be reet ee by gum.
• Sup wi' 'im shurrup.

Now that seems to work fine - this says more about the source than it does about the editor



Seems like it still is!

My brain just exploded reading that.

Responding in Essex - 'Mate, what you on? 'Av a larf'

 

[James]

So here is a list directly Copy & Pasted from Mac Pages (excuse the Yorkshire):

• Where's tha bin.
• Will 'e 'eckerslike mardy bum bobbar.
• Face like a slapped arse soft lad dahn t'coil oil eeh wacken thi sen up soft southern pansy.
• Bobbar michael palin ah'll gi' thee a thick ear ne'ermind aye. Breadcake soft southern pansy tha daft apeth.
• Any rooad oop that's champion wacken thi sen up wacken thi sen up nay lad ah'll learn thi.
• God's own county nah then ne'ermind will 'e 'eckerslike ee by gum.
• Eeh appens as maybe appens as maybe ne'ermind. Th'art nesh thee is that thine be reet ee by gum.
• Sup wi' 'im shurrup.

Now that seems to work fine - this says more about the source than it does about the editor



Seems like it still is!

Getting Fred Elliott vibes from coronation street 20 years ago

 

[MySiteGuy]

@Chris D,

When researching Froala’s alternatives and finally choosing one, please include in the testing criteria the alternative’s ability to correctly parse pastes from standalone text editors such as Open Office, Microsoft Word, Google Docs, and so forth. Froala is literally broken in that regard.

I find the opposite to be true. I have a client who sends me various docs frequently, asking me to send it out as an "email blast" to his forum user base. I covert these to basic HTML by pasting them into the Xenforo editor, preview and then view the page source to copy the HTML. It works great, and keeps formatting.

 

[nodle]

Hey guys I have been gone for a while, but just switched back, is Xenforo 5.0 released now?

 

[Mendalla]

Hey guys I have been gone for a while, but just switched back, is Xenforo 5.0 released now?

You're too late. We are waiting on 6.4.

 

[Suzanne O]

You're too late. We are waiting on 6.4.

Now that's funny.

 

[Dkf]

Hey guys I have been gone for a while, but just switched back, is Xenforo 5.0 released now?

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