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xf vs ipb speed

Discussion in 'XenForo Pre-Sales Questions' started by majdi, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. majdi

    majdi Well-Known Member


    i run an ipb forum and its loading very slow, google webmasterstool result is very bad and as you know this penalize the SEO.
    I am wondering how is xenforo speed? can anyone share with us his webmasterstool result?
  2. Shadab

    Shadab Well-Known Member

  3. Shamil

    Shamil Well-Known Member

    Have you tried to optimise your server operating environment, before looking at other solutions?
  4. TNCclubman

    TNCclubman Well-Known Member

    what settings to start would you suggest for the mysql and php?
  5. dieketzer

    dieketzer Well-Known Member

    if youre running apache that is the first thing i would look at.
    its typically pretty bad out-of-the-box, which tends to fuel the anti-apache rhetoric. but if you spend the time and effort to tune it you can speed up your site considerably.
  6. majdi

    majdi Well-Known Member

    you keep giving advice on tuning apache. can someone tell us how to do it?
  7. motowebmaster

    motowebmaster Active Member

    Have you opened a ticket with Invision Power?

    I think several folks here have a particular server/web-server config that they live by, but it's difficult to dispense advice without details.
  8. Bain

    Bain Active Member

    IPB will run slower than XenForo due to the amount of coding that each have. Xenforo has fewer lines of code, thus it will run faster due to it being the more streamlined in terms of code.
  9. dieketzer

    dieketzer Well-Known Member

    i think its the first time i have ever mentioned tuning apache here.
    cant really tell you how to do it as there are too many variables involved, such as your server environment, the level of access you have to apache, etc. apaches default state is highly dependant upon where you got it, which os youre running and whatnot. its something you will need to research.
  10. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    That's really not true at all. The number of lines of code involved has almost no bearing on the speed of execution.
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  11. AlexT

    AlexT Well-Known Member

  12. craigiri

    craigiri Well-Known Member

    There are too many variables to easily tell someone how to optimize apache, mysql and php...but in general:
    1. Turn off apache logging.....most people use google these days anyway.....
    2. Build in the php and other things to the apache build - mod_php, fastcgi or whatever.
    3. mysql is often the problem - that is a book in itself, but use some utilities which allow you to tune mysql...or at least tell you what is wrong.
    4. Slow down the crawl rate that google uses in webmaster tools.
    5. Use a dedicated server - ideally with a Xeon.

    Many of these depend on the RAM you have available to you.....apache can have a lot of servers and children and mysql can cache most of the entire db in many installations, making them MUCH faster.

    Google webmaster tools are a bit strange...first of all, they only consider being in the top 20% as fast.....secondly, in my report the slowest part these days is GOOGLE (their ads) showing on my pages.
  13. a legacy reborn

    a legacy reborn Well-Known Member

    You crashed firefox lol! Fun times...I am saving that for later :)
  14. ragtek

    ragtek Guest

    that's not true!

    If somebody have no clue of the whole LAMP stuff, he WILL!!! have a much slower page, as with an normal webhost!
    Everybody thinks, that he can rent a server without knowledge, upload his page and that's it, but that's not true:p

    (especially if they don't care about the security...)
  15. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    <?php sleep(29); echo 'Hello world';
    Just a single line of code, and virtual no functionality, but most certainly much slower than IPB, and quite possibly slower than vB4 too! ;)
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  16. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    That's possible?! [​IMG]
  17. dutchbb

    dutchbb Well-Known Member

    AFAIK forum software has minimal effect on the speed in most cases. I've seen big board phpBB forums having almost no delay. It's really mostly hardware and server configuration (e.g. Apache is slower than Nginx, non-optimized vs optimized MySQL config...).
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  18. gfc

    gfc Active Member

    You just run a code someone posts without fully understanding it?...
  19. a legacy reborn

    a legacy reborn Well-Known Member

    I understood it but didn't think it would crash that easily lol...
  20. Shamil

    Shamil Well-Known Member

    I've done it! The only problem, it was a live script :/

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