XF 2.3 ?

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Ntown said:
I'm not even going to do so then. The lack of communication has strayed into disrespect at this point and I'm losing interest fast.
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I would completely agree with this. At this point they are just being blatantly disrespectful.

At this point its safe to say we've been fed alot of false information (lies).

First, before 2.0 was even a reality we were promised development would pickup up after the rewrite of 2.0. We were all patient with the rewrite and supported the company.

The most recent one was this:
Kier said:
2.3 has been in active development for quite some time and we expect to start running HYS threads in the coming weeks.
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Not to mention XenForo trying to sweep it under the rug that a KEY piece of the company @Mike departed. No respect at all to make their customers aware that a corner stone of the company had moved on...

Considering some of these misleading statements are coming from key players at XenForo is why some customers are upset and asking for answers.

Then we have instances where @Kier says something like this "Of course we’d prefer that people renew annually, it certainly helps us out, but if you don’t, that’s your prerogative."
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Current state of XF and the participation of the XF Team

2.) Someone will post "where's 2.4" the day 2.3 is released as a joke but eventually turns semi-serious. :censored: :X3: - Guilty m'lord
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If you ask me thats like asking for handouts/donations. This is like one of your employees asking you to keep them on payrole long after they've left the company- wouldnt you ask "What am i paying you for?" You're a business, what are you providing the customers to incentivise the annual renewal (ticket support i believe but community support is still available)?

Also, with all due respect to @Brogan (in my eyes he truly needs a raise hes been the face of XF and the support power house for YEARS) but jabs and comments like this arent very professional and dont help the situation.
You have customers on 19 pages of the thread having serious discussions and asking serious questions to guage which direction their hobby/business should take and instead of answering any of the questions we get a "sarcastic" post like this.

I have refrained from really expressing my self in this regard because of the hostile environment one encounters anytime they question anything XF wise (a lot of people have expressed this feeling/opinion yet some just overlook it).

On a side note when XF 2.0 was still in the works I had my fingers crossed that XF would team up with @Mike C and his amazing team or @Pixel Exit to knock the UI/UIX out of the park. Unfortunantly, this never happened. At times you have to step back and say "Hey im a developer - let me let the pros handle the design and other aspects".
Im not trying to knock the XF 2.0 design but i know that the @ThemeHouse team or @Pixel Exit would have knocked this out of the park (I believe Invision Community brought Ehren on board - he's great at what he does).
 
Ntown said:
I'm not even going to do so then. The lack of communication has strayed into disrespect at this point and I'm losing interest fast.
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Goodfella said:
I would completely agree with this. At this point they are just being blatantly disrespectful.
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I don't think they're being purposefully disrespectful. I think there just isn't anything new for them to update us on.

Certainly they could have communicated better with us the fact that Mike left and that things weren't moving as quickly as once was thought but what else is there for us to know now? You guys want an update that simply says "we're still working"? That's about all we'd get. We already know they don't lay out timelines and this is a result of what happens when they do and don't meet it. I don't blame them for not wanting to throw another date, or timeframe, out there.

That said, I agree with all of you. The fact we had to start this thread and complain just to get "something" out of a developer is absurd. Not telling us about Mike and not letting us know about the slow down in production, before we basically demanded it, wasn't right. I like to think they know they messed up by not being open with us all along and maybe things will be better going forward.

I'm not looking into other software because XF is still the best one available for me and I'll continue to use it, and recommend it, communication flaws and all, until I no longer think it's the best option. Until then, I'll just keep worrying about only the things I can control and whether or not there is a HYS next week isn't one of those things.

However, I'm also not willing to pay for nothing, as I'm sure they understand. I won't update any of my licenses (only one is actually expired anyways) until there is value in it for me to do so and, for now, that simply isn't the case.
 
after analyzing many platforms goes down after switching to cloud, people usually do not trust their data, my friend has custom made cms for shops, after moving to cloud, no one buys, still selling self-hosted
another point is when someone loses data in cloud, one person can bring much headache
 
Where Are You Waiting GIF by This GIF Is Haunted
 
@XenForo, if you all need a customer liaison to post once a week, just to let these members know y'all are still working, I'll do it for free. 👍
 
sbj said:
Is the previous promise/stamement still true that we will see it happening in 2022? Thanks.
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Heck... you may have already seen evidence of it.... do you know exactly what version of XF you are currently interacting with? ;)
 
Chris D said:
We’re still working.
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Since everyone loves the tables including myself, I'm going to make a new one from scratch with all the point releases too. Thank you for all the work your team puts into this community.

VersionRelease TypeBugs SquashedNew FeaturesRelease DateDurationMajor Duration
1.0.0 Beta 1BetaOct 5, 20100 Days0 Days
1.0.0 Beta 2PatchOct 21, 201016 Days
1.0.0 Beta 3PatchNov 11, 201020 Days
1.0.0 Beta 4PatchDec 3, 201022 Days
1.0.0 Beta 5PatchDec 10, 20107 Days
1.0.0 Beta 6PatchJan 13, 201134 Days
1.0.0 RC 1PatchJan 20, 20117 Days
1.0.0 RC 2PatchFeb 3, 201114 Days
1.0.0 RC 3PatchFeb 22, 201119 Days
1.0.0MajorMar 8, 201115 Days154 Days
1.0.1PatchApr 5, 201128 Days
1.0.2PatchMay 25, 201151 Days
1.0.3PatchJul 5, 201111 Days
1.0.4PatchJul 12, 20117 Days
1.1.0 Beta 1BetaOct 5, 201185 Days
1.1.0 Beta 2PatchOct 7, 20112 Days
1.1.0 Beta 3PatchOct 18, 201111 Days
1.1.0 Beta 4PatchOct 27, 20119 Days
1.1.0 Beta 5PatchNov 9, 201113 Days
1.1.0 RC 1PatchNov 15, 20116 Days
1.1.0MajorNov 22, 20117 Days259 Days
1.1.0 Patch 1PatchDec 13, 201122 Days
1.0.4 Patch 1PatchDec 13, 2011-
1.1.1PatchDec 13, 2011-
1.1.2PatchFeb 7, 201218 Days
All PatchPatchJun 19, 2012133 Days
1.1.3PatchJun 19, 2012-
1.1.4PatchMar 26, 2013280 Days(Lawsuit's over)
1.1.5PatchMay 21, 201356 Days
1.2.0 Beta 1BetaJun 19, 201329 Days
1.2.0 Beta 2PatchJun 25, 20136 Days
1.2.0 Beta 3PatchJun 25, 2013-
1.2.0 Beta 4PatchJul 2, 20138 Days
1.2.0 Beta 5Patch
​
Jul 9, 2013
1.2.0 RC 1PatchJul 16, 2013
1.2.0 RC 2PatchJul 23, 2013
1.2.0MajorJul 30, 2013?616 Days
1.2.1PatchAug 20, 2013
1.2.2PatchSept 24, 2013
1.2.3PatchNov 5, 2013
1.2.4PatchDec 17, 2013
1.3.0 Beta 1BetaJan 28, 2014
1.3.0 Beta 2PatchFeb 5, 2014
1.3.0 Beta 3PatchFeb 12, 2014
1.2.5PatchFeb 12, 2014
1.3.0 Beta 4Patch
​
Feb 18, 2014
1.3.0 RC1PatchFeb 25, 2014
1.3.0 RC2PatchMar 4, 2014
1.3.0MajorMar 11, 2014
1.3.1PatchApr 8, 2014
1.3.2PatchMay 13, 2014
1.3.3PatchJun 17, 2014
1.3.4PatchJul 15, 2014
1.4.0 Beta 1BetaAug 6, 2014
1.2.6SecurityAug 12, 2014
1.3.5SecurityAug 12, 2014
1.4.0 Beta 2PatchAug 12, 2014
1.4.0 Beta 3PatchAug 20, 2014
1.4.0 RC 1PatchAug 27, 2014
1.4.0 RC 2PatchSep 2, 2014
1.4.0MajorSep 9, 2014
All PatchSecuritySep 16, 2014
1.4.2PatchOct 14, 2014
1.4.3PatchNov 18, 2014
2.2.9Patch751April 13, 2022132 Days
2.2.10Patch8Jul 13, 202291 Days
2.1.14Patch1Oct 11, 202290 Days
2.2.11Patch1Oct 11, 2022-
2.2.12Patch622Dec 8, 202258 Days

....And I couldn't finish. #WorkInProgress
 
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sbj said:
Is the previous promise/stamement still true that we will see it happening in 2022? Thanks.
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No one promised anything, and if you try to hold the staff to a promise they will be even less forthcoming with information in the future. I welcome communication that may or may not end up being accurate. Communication is key, but trying to hold them to a casual statement will just keep them from communicating at all.
 
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