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lolAnd if Apple created a magic wand, the Windows/Android bigots would say, "its just a stick."
lolAnd if Apple created a magic wand, the Windows/Android bigots would say, "its just a stick."
I agree with the whole touchscreen for those that have it and that it is awesome if you have one/ are using one at the moment...though the Cintiq I was looking at and had tried out (and is WELL worth it) was about 2 grand and at the time I wasn't doing enough to warrant it so I built my own ir pen (no pressure levels like a wacom which sucks) that get's tracked by a calibrated wiimote which get's picked up by a dongle with modded firmware. The thing is though...most people at their pc use a mouse and keyboard and an occasional joypad/flightstick/whell ect and relying on a touch interface to make usability easy is not cool with me. Literally the start menu is hard to use...from playing around with the 8dev release I felt like they are trying to hide everything I need and force me to see a bunch of useless things.Okay, this entire thread has me completely confused. I feel like I didn't even watch the same video.
It seems like no one noticed that the touch thing was just there for touch devices. They even said you're free to still use the mouse if you want. They were running the OS on tablets and desktops that weren't even designed for it. You really can't comment on how hard the touch functionality will be to use before we even see what kind of devices are going to be developed specifically for it. (And that's not even acknowledging the tablet use in the video.) And if no developer is thinking the first thing I thought, "hey, how about a desktop screen that lays flat, like a Wacom Cintiq", similar to the developer's computer they gave everybody at that Keynote, then there's something seriously wrong with the them to begin with.
And I think the idea that old people will have hard time with that new layout, well, let's just say I think maybe you're being a little old fashioned. That layout is about the most simplified one they've ever done, which was a criticism in another thread about this same subject. Big blocks that you hit. I also think that older people are smarter than we give them credit for. It's just some of them are stubborn, and those are the one's we always end up having give help to. We can't develop technology for stubborn people. That also means that just because you hate, or at the very least don't use, social networking, doesn't mean you can ignore that the lions share of the internet using population who uses it daily. It would be downright ignorant and backward thinking on a developer's part to not include that functionality in a system that's supposed make everything streamlined. I mean, you will probably still use the social elements to send an email. So, really, you would use it, even if you never ventured near a Facecbook or a FriendFeed.
Did anyone even notice the really big deal with regard to those metro apps? Even I would be able to make metro apps. That means most of you will, too. That's a big deal for all of us, when we think about it. Sorry, but I think you guys are jumping on a non-neutral bandwagon. Neutral appraisal might be difficult, but at the very least, you have to acknowledge that some of the criticisms in this thread are at best inflated, and at worst, straw men.
(And to preempt any suppositions on where I stand with Microsoft and Apple as a company, my stance is "I don't care". I don't give a flip about companies. I like new stuff that works. I buy what I can afford.)
If they don't switch up how it feels right now...I will be finishing up that line for you.If they want to take my Win 7, they'll have to peel my cold, dead fingers.................................................
Actually, what I think is that 8 could become the next Vista.If they don't switch up how it feels right now...I will be finishing up that line for you.
It is a power thing and it is an option that comes from the fact that people use the same os on a laptop as well as a desktop. On a laptop this increases battery life.Windows/MS rant
So I was uploading a 100meg file to the printer and when I came back it had gone into "sleep" and cut the internet connection. Yes, I know that I can re-set that somewhere, but why should I have to?
Firefox has hundreds of groups/servers that deliver it's free and open source program where as microsoft is a private company with proprietary files that they deliver themselves and pay for..it is as simple as that.Also, many websites seem to have no problem detecting what version of Windows I'm running and whether 32 or 64. But when I go to a MS website it ASKS me to enter the information! I know what I have, but many people don't and shouldn't have to know. Also, downloading from MS is always so slow. I can download Firefox in 30 second, yet the same size file from MS might take half an hour!
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Not knowing if you have a 64 bit or 32 bit OS is a bad thing...
This is why you have to select manually.I am pretty sure Grant knows which he has, he was saying Microsoft should be able to detect what he has when he enters their site, not have to manually input the info.
Only problem with that is, you might be there to download apps for another computer which is different.
I am pretty sure Grant knows which he has, he was saying Microsoft should be able to detect what he has when he enters their site, not have to manually input the info.
Only problem with that is, you might be there to download apps for another computer which is different.
Okay, this entire thread has me completely confused. I feel like I didn't even watch the same video.
It seems like no one noticed that the touch thing was just there for touch devices. They even said you're free to still use the mouse if you want. They were running the OS on tablets and desktops that weren't even designed for it. You really can't comment on how hard the touch functionality will be to use before we even see what kind of devices are going to be developed specifically for it. (And that's not even acknowledging the tablet use in the video.) And if no developer is thinking the first thing I thought, "hey, how about a desktop screen that lays flat, like a Wacom Cintiq", similar to the developer's computer they gave everybody at that Keynote, then there's something seriously wrong with the them to begin with.
And I think the idea that old people will have hard time with that new layout, well, let's just say I think maybe you're being a little old fashioned. That layout is about the most simplified one they've ever done, which was a criticism in another thread about this same subject. Big blocks that you hit. I also think that older people are smarter than we give them credit for. It's just some of them are stubborn, and those are the one's we always end up having give help to. We can't develop technology for stubborn people. That also means that just because you hate, or at the very least don't use, social networking, doesn't mean you can ignore that the lions share of the internet using population who uses it daily. It would be downright ignorant and backward thinking on a developer's part to not include that functionality in a system that's supposed make everything streamlined. I mean, you will probably still use the social elements to send an email. So, really, you would use it, even if you never ventured near a Facecbook or a FriendFeed.
Did anyone even notice the really big deal with regard to those metro apps? Even I would be able to make metro apps. That means most of you will, too. That's a big deal for all of us, when we think about it. Sorry, but I think you guys are jumping on a non-neutral bandwagon. Neutral appraisal might be difficult, but at the very least, you have to acknowledge that some of the criticisms in this thread are at best inflated, and at worst, straw men.
(And to preempt any suppositions on where I stand with Microsoft and Apple as a company, my stance is "I don't care". I don't give a flip about companies. I like new stuff that works. I buy what I can afford.)
Like I said a Cintiq is awesome for sure...just not a lot of people have touch interfaces for their pc at this time. In the near future (1-3 years) I would guess this is going to be more widely used outside of the animation, image finishing , and 3d work. I have tried cheap drawing tablets myself and they are luck of the draw. Some work but most of the cheapies are not awesome at this point for anything serious. You really need a screen to draw on...and yeah having Cintiq's amount of pressure levels is totally a big plus but not needed by most people outside of image editing and animation.Keep in mind the Cintiq is that expensive because of the pressure sensitivity and the optimization for doing everything an artist would ever want to do on his screen. I merely site it as an example of a screen that can detach from its easel and set on your lap. Clearly, pads don't cost that much, and I would doubt anything developed for Windows 8, unless really high end, would cost that much.
Though it seems to me the biggest complaints are about the start menu. Which, from everything I'm seeing, is as customizable as your desktop, and which you apparently don't have to use. Also, the social media services can't connect you to them if you don't have an account with the respective services, or barring that, haven't given them permission to access your account(s).
I liked your post because I agree with you... not because I like that they are trying to replace my desktop with a tablet. I wouldn't mind having a very powerful tablet don't get me wrong...I just can't foresee it being a viable option for me as a replacement with the way I process a workload. Now for entertainment, socializing (using this forum let's say or simple online games) and mobile accessibility, a tablet layout is quite nice as long as it can keep up with a moderately spec'd desktop.I only mention Cintiq because of the detachable monitor. All art ability aside, I'm more suggesting that future computers will be, essentially, tablets with wireless keyboards and a stand. Like the demo machine they handed out at the keynote, which, I might add, would be verily awesome.
I remember seeing this some years ago. For weeks afterwards I kept sketching potential ideas and uses commercially, that I hope someone with actual capital thinks of and bothers to move ahead with./\
that all being said....
I would love to get my hands on this...
http://www.samsunglfd.com/product/feature.do?modelCd=SUR40
if the price were to come down a few K I would grab one sooner than later to start figuring out what I can do with this...I see pure awesomeness with this in the future.
Well, at some point in the very near future, I think that's where were going simply because I think the need for the giant noisy tower beside our desk is getting less and less relevant or necessary. Keyboards and mouses are already wireless. So are printers, device syncing and assorted peripherals. Storage space and USB sticks pretty much make DVD drives irrelevant for anything other than watching movies (PC gamers accepted). And even that's moving into people's console platforms and (if when studios finally pull the last vestiges of their thinking out of the dark ages) streaming. Keep in mind, what we're looking at here is your monitor being a wireless device that you can take with you if needed. You'd still have a standard, but wireless keyboard. If anything, the lack of cords and mobility alone will improve your workflow exponentially.
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