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Upgrade the ignore function to 'block' / Blocking Ignored Users

Discussion in 'XenForo Suggestions' started by Razasharp, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. Razasharp

    Razasharp Well-Known Member

    I think ignoring someone on a forum has never really worked from a users perspective. On vB you could still see the 'ignored' person had posted, and on XF when you ignore someone it doesn't prevent them from quoting you, seeing your threads, posting in them.

    Usually when someone 'ignores' someone, what they really want to do is block them.

    Any chance of this being included?
    rafass, Tracy Perry, HWS and 2 others like this.
  2. QenTox

    QenTox Well-Known Member

    I am not sure if it is explained somewhere here, but when you ignore someone, what exactly that person can not do (see, ...)?
  3. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Ignoring someone only affects content you see, not what they can see.
    Amaury likes this.
  4. Razasharp

    Razasharp Well-Known Member

    If you ignore someone you can't see their threads or posts - but if you follow a link to their thread you can see it (minus their post).
  5. TLMD

    TLMD Active Member

    So you don't want to see the user's posts as well as not allow the user to see your posts? Am I getting this right?
  6. Razasharp

    Razasharp Well-Known Member

    Yep. So a user can 'block' someone else if they want to - where neither can see each other's posts/threads etc.
  7. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    No from me.

    You can choose to ignore them and not see their posts while they can do the same. Plus, I don't see what's so bad about people you ignore seeing your content.
    twhiting9275 likes this.
  8. HWS

    HWS Well-Known Member

    If you're a fan from "Ignore", both features can live together happily.
    "Ignore" and "Block" are 2 different features.

    I know "ignore" has historic roots in the forum world, but today in our online social networking world a "Block" feature would be much more important for such web sites.
    Razasharp likes this.
  9. MagnusB

    MagnusB Well-Known Member

    I really don't see how block would make any difference, unless the forum is completely private. For example, if I would block user X here on xenforo, user X just would have to log out to see my posts / threads.
  10. TLMD

    TLMD Active Member

    The problem I see is that when you ignore someone else, this is your very own decision. If you block someone else from seeing you, you basically decide for this other person what to see and what not.

    On the other hand... well, it is something like an advanced privacy setting, if you want to call it that way. Only certain people (or in this case: certain people don't) get access to your posts. I think I like this -- if it is an optional setting. The original ignore function should still remain.
  11. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 Active Member

    Ignore works the way ignore works everywhere else. Block is a completely different story however.
    Personally, I'm all for leaving it as it is and creating a 'block' addon. Let ignore work the way it always has (and likely always will) in the forum world.
    Amaury likes this.
  12. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    It has been suggested and discussed previously.

    For reasons already stated, it's not a practical application for forums as threads would be rendered nonsensical if members were blocked from seeing content by other members without their knowledge.
    Amaury likes this.
  13. Razasharp

    Razasharp Well-Known Member

    I think people would get used to it - just like they have on twitter or other sites. Or better still, fine-tune it so that it works for forums.

    A blocked person could at the very least be prevented from seeing the threads of a person who blocked them without many problems. Preventing the quoting or replying to a person who has blocked them (via a message if need be) should be ok too.

    That way it is not a full block - they can still see all posts, but they can't respond to the poster who has blocked them. That would be a fair compromise IMO.

    On our forums we have a Forced Block request, which means anyone can block anyone by sending an official request to admin. Both parties are then prohibited to contact or refer to each other via the site in any way shape or form - doing so results in a ban. Why? Because we have to respect our member's rights to engage with whoever they do, or don't. If you have any experience of people with mental illness you will know that sometimes things like bullying can be very subjective - what may not phase you or I might crush someone who is already feeling very low. That's why we take forced blocks very seriously, but they are obviously difficult to manage without being automated.
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  14. Razasharp

    Razasharp Well-Known Member

    Another set of long-standing members on one of my forums now saying they are going to leave because of a thread where no rules were actually broken - but abrasive tones and slightly condescending attitudes did play a part (but not enough to be moderated).

    People used to take a lot more years ago - but with the advent of social networks people prefer more control over their threads, especially personal threads.

    Some additions to the ignore feature would come in really handy in situations like this. Ignore someone, and they cannot see your threads as well. But can see your posts in other people's threads - think that's a fair compromise. Hope this gets added.
    RichardKYA likes this.
  15. twhiting9275

    twhiting9275 Active Member

    This is nothing new. Drama on forums happens all the time.
    Those that claim 'we're leaving' never really do, they're just attention seeking individuals

    As others (and myself) have mentioned, this behavior is how forums always have been, and will always be. If you don't like something, or someone, just ignore them and move on. Block aint happening
  16. Razasharp

    Razasharp Well-Known Member

    Just because how some things have always been doesn't mean they're good or should continue to be the way of doing things.

    People like social networks for a reason - they have much more control over their content and who they do and don't interact with for starters.

    People leave forums through attrition all the time - I'd rather try and figure out ways to combat that.

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