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Turning the breadcrumb into a navigation menu idea. Rubbish?

Discussion in 'XenForo Suggestions' started by Stuart Wright, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright Well-Known Member

    Not sure if this is a small or big feature.

    So we have had an extended menu on AVForums for years where people can drill down a fair way into the sub forums to quickly get to the area of interest.

    and I was thinking about how we could implement this into Xenforo when we move in August.
    Going forward the new header will have more of an emphasis on editorial and the forums will be just one of several main menu options, making the job even harder.


    Then I had a thought that maybe we could use the breadcrumb as a way to navigate through the nodes.
    Hover over one of the breadcrumbs in the trail and the whole list of siblings drops down. From there it's possible to highlight one and its children pop out to the right in another list. And so on.

    I created a mockup. Obviously it would need to be styled to look much prettier.

    It would allow for relatively fast navigation to every node in the forum from every page, and would, of course, need to use the jQuery system detailed here.
    Anyone think this is a good idea? Or is it rubbish?
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2013
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  2. James

    James Well-Known Member

    I think it's a good idea, not sure on how easy it'd be to implement though!
  3. Morgain

    Morgain Well-Known Member

    @James - need to Like it then. ;)

    I too think this is good.
    Just as a touch of spice I already added a LATEST! button on the end of breadcrumbs top n footer. Opens "Recent Threads"
    It's almost frighteningly popular!
  4. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright Well-Known Member

  5. Russ

    Russ Well-Known Member

  6. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright Well-Known Member

    Wow yeah that works really well, doesn't it? Probably going to ask Chris Deeming to create an an addon for this.
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  7. RoldanLT

    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

    Similar to digital point forum menu, nice to have (y)
  8. xf_phantom

    xf_phantom Well-Known Member

    I've seen this some time ago in the get satisfaction software https://getsatisfaction.com/getsatisfaction

    I love the idea and i thought people would love & use it, so i created a xf addon, but my stats showed that the users never get familiar with this ( IN THE BREADCRUMB), so i removed it again.
    People prefered to have this feature in navbar and the quick navigation (even if the quick navigation is a massive failure, depending on the community 0-24% of the registered users used it at least once:D )
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  9. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright Well-Known Member

    The Blizzard one actually opens a list of child forums under each element of the breadcrumb, and this is probably more intuitive behaviour.
    The Digital Point menu is, of course complete and comprehensive, and appropriate for their technical audience. I think it would be a bit much for our audience who can be less technical and less able to cope with mega big menus.
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  10. James

    James Well-Known Member

    Ah, I thought this was add-on discussion. Didn't realise it was a suggestion.
  11. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright Well-Known Member

    Wasn't sure where to post it. A mod might want to move it into the addon forum.
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  12. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    If you want to leave it as a suggestion for the software, that's perfectly reasonable.
  13. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright Well-Known Member

    I think it could be a reasonable suggestion, but I'm very interested in getting as many opinions as possible as to whether or not it's a good idea. With comments on the best way to implement it.
    Whatever happens, we're coding a menu system for AVForums as it's a quick way to both discover and get to the various forums, but it's also what people are used to having.
    I'm just interested really in whether people think utilising the breadcrumb is a good way of doing it.
  14. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I can't think of any drawbacks of such a system.

    The breadcrumb link itself would still function as a link so that wouldn't be lost.
    All it does is provide another method for quickly navigating around the forum.
  15. Morgain

    Morgain Well-Known Member

    Would be more easily discoverable than the poor quickmenu which suffers from being a tiny icon.
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  16. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    Question come to me is will this be something that can be maintained in a responsive layout though (while supporting all mobile devices)...

    I know you can do lots of "magic" with css3, but at some point or another the the screen size does become a factor.
  17. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    It can always be disabled below certain screen widths.
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  18. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    This is true....

    Just a little "shy" to the idea about not offering everything to everyone.
  19. Jeremy

    Jeremy XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    The notion of responsive is just that. As you get smaller, you offer less (well, in terms of information for the most part) to those users.
  20. Hornstar

    Hornstar Well-Known Member

    Some times yeah. Other times a really good responsive is being able to show the same or similar but more optimized. Example: some of the menus here are a great example of that.
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