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TheSkullKid said:
Why does it happened, because you wanted to release 1.0.3 Beta 10?
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Probably :)

Version IDs can be confusing, especially as the official documentation IMHO isn't that great and usage seems to be somewhat inconsistent.

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XF 2.2 - Version ID Format

I am a bit confused about version ID vs. version string. According to https://xenforo.com/docs/dev/add-on-structure/#recommended-version-id-format the version ID 2020871 should be Major Version 2 Minor Version 2 Patch Version 8 State Stable State Version 1 If I use version ID 2020871 on...
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1.0.3 Beta 10 would be 1000340
 
Kirby said:
1.0.3 Beta 10 would be 1000340
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I was thinking that if betta is 30 and rc 50, then 40 is for such cases. But I decided to try 310 for betta 10)
frankly I was sure that it will reject and will say something like "enter proper number".
nope )
 
Interesting. Just a couple of questions, if we may:
  1. How is the title data gathered? Manually, hourly, daily, via a cron?
  2. Is it done on a batch basis or as one job across the entire database?
  3. Are there any performance hits for large sites - e.g. 500,000+ threads?
  4. Are there any logs for title edits to show before/after? (in case we want to compare SEO results or revert to previous title)
Apologies if these haven't been discussed or addressed yet, just a few things that sprung to mind.

We've been having serious discussions about thread title SEO recently and this would be a very handy tool to help deal with duplicate titles and low density (too short) titles. (y)
 
VBX Co said:
Interesting. Just a couple of questions, if we may:
  1. How is the title data gathered? Manually, hourly, daily, via a cron?
  2. Is it done on a batch basis or as one job across the entire database?
  3. Are there any performance hits for large sites - e.g. 500,000+ threads?
  4. Are there any logs for title edits to show before/after? (in case we want to compare SEO results or revert to previous title)
Apologies if these haven't been discussed or addressed yet, just a few things that sprung to mind.

We've been having serious discussions about thread title SEO recently and this would be a very handy tool to help deal with duplicate titles and low density (too short) titles. (y)
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Those are all good questions.

Query runs when a page opens. For "Too long" and "Too short" pages I guess there is no difference how many threads forum has as a query fetches 20 items per run. With "Duplicates" it's totally different story, as it has to check each title vs each title, so 500,000 x 500,000 would probably hit the server. I'm testing the add-on with my forum that has 17k of threads and "Duplicates" page opens as fast as any other xF page (it displays top 100 items).

And yes, I agree that for big boards the add-on should fetch and keep results in a custom table, fetching them by small batches via a cron.
And a log probably would be useful, too.

And to connect the add-on to Google search console, and to sort duplicates, longs, and shorts not by id, title, or number of duplicates, but by amount of traffic a page is already generates would be cool, too. So I would not have to fix thousands of titles blindly, before I could see a result of my work. Instead I would edit those titles, that will produce a maximum organic traffic boost after fixing.

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But I'm not the only one...
 
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply @Anatoliy - sounds like a good start and, like may other add-ons, we're sure it will develop over time into something much better. (y)

A couple more questions, if you don't mind:
  • Does the query exclude soft-deleted thread titles?
  • Is there an option to exclude threads from specific forums? (for example, we have several admin/member-only forums that are not public so would be pointless to include)
  • In addition, prompted by the one above - can individual threads be excluded? (for example if you know the title is short, but it has a top ranking and brings lots of traffic already)
 
You are just a great ideas generator. )
VBX Co said:
  • Does the query exclude soft-deleted thread titles?
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Yes. Soft deleted and redirects.
VBX Co said:
  • Is there an option to exclude threads from specific forums? (for example, we have several admin/member-only forums that are not public so would be pointless to include)
  • In addition, prompted by the one above - can individual threads be excluded? (for example if you know the title is short, but it has a top ranking and brings lots of traffic already)
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Those are definitely should be present. The other question is that I have no idea how to implement that. )
I'll try to add a custom table so threads and forums could be added to the list:
"You can't touch this
My, my, my, my
You can't touch this".
 
Something that might help on old forums and with a lot of threads would be to set a search range or at least be able to sort the results by date so maybe you don't bother too much with threads that have 5, 6 , 8 or 10 years. Just an idea like that.
 
nicodak said:
Something that might help on old forums and with a lot of threads would be to set a search range or at least be able to sort the results by date so maybe you don't bother too much with threads that have 5, 6 , 8 or 10 years. Just an idea like that.
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Actually I guess it's quite opposite. )
I can see that the biggest part of my organic traffic is brought by ancient, non active for 5-10 years threads. I explain it by age of a page is being one of the ranking factors. Firstly I thought that by editing titles I will ruin that "age factor" as with titles I change thread's urls. But then I could see that 301 redirect passes "authority juice" to new url. So I'd rather fix in first place oldies and not bother too much with threads that younger than 5, 6 , 8 or 10 years. )

But yes, ability to sort results by age, replies count etc is a good idea. Put in my to do list. Will implement in update 10.33.99 )))
 
Anatoliy said:
I can see that the biggest part of my organic traffic is brought by ancient, non active for 5-10 years threads.
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Which explains why my forum, which is only 10 months old, is so poorly positioned in the SERPs, and unfortunately no module can accelerate aging... So I have to be patient and wait for the first wrinkles...
 
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