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Heineken Cup
Aironi Rugby 6 - 22 Bath(16 October 2010)
Edinburgh 27 - 31 Northampton(16 October 2010)
Munster 45 - 18 Toulon(16 October 2010)
Newport-Gwent Dragons 19 - 42 Toulouse(16 October 2010)
Racing Metro 92 16 - 9 Clermont Auvergne(16 October 2010)
Saracens 23 - 25 Leinster(16 October 2010)
Castres 27 - 6 Cardiff Blues (15 October 2010)
Ospreys 27 -16 London Irish 15 October 2010)

British & Irish Cup
Llandovery 18 - 28 Pontypridd(16 October 2010)
Swansea 12 - 32 Ulster(16 October 2010)
Munster 13 - 15 Llanelli(15 October 2010)

Scottish Premiership 1
Boroughmuir 30 - 20 Dundee HSFP (16 October 2010)
Hawick 13 -23 Glasgow Hawks (16 October 2010)
Selkirk 17 - 43 Heriots Rugby Club (16 October 2010)
Stirling County 30 - 43 Currie (16 October 2010)
Watsonians 17 - 52 Ayr (16 October 2010)
West of Scotland 26 - 59 Melrose (16 October 2010)

Scottish Premiership 2
Falkirk 16 - 34 Gala (16 October 2010) (Great defeat for my old team)
Hillhead/Jordanhill 21 0 34 Edinburgh Acads (16 October 2010)
Jed-Forest 34 - 14 Stewarts Mevlville FP (16 October 2010)
Kelso 22 - 48 Aberdeen GSFP (16 October 2010)
Kirkcaldy 35 - 20 GHA (16 October 2010)
Peebles 15 - 12 Biggar (16 October 2010)

Scottish Premiership 3
Cartha Q P 34 - 7 Howe of Fife (16 October 2010)
Dalziel 19 - 9 Ardrossan Acads (16 October 2010)
Dumfries 19 - 18 Musselburgh (16 October 2010)
Haddington 23 - 15 Dunfermline (16 October 2010)
Morgan Academy FP 19 - 43 Whitecraigs (16 October 2010)
Perthshire 19 - 50 Hamilton (16 October 2010)
 
Jerry said:
I wish I got more of here in Canada, it's such an effort to hunt it out and stay up with it, looking forward to more of it back in Europe.
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Well Jerry we can keep you up with the game Down Under but someone else will have to post about other areas.

The Evil Empire retained the ranfurly shield with a 39-21 win over the Steelers. Having a look at the table it's still tight at the top unfort the Magpies become the latest casualty of the culling in the premier league with zero chance of retaining premier placement regardless of results in their final couple of games. That freaking ref in the Otago game cost us the season :(

In good news for Irish club side Leinster, Clint Newlands (the Magpie enforcer) has signed to play in the Magner League. Clint has notched over a 100 games for the Magpies and has three seasons of S14 behind him with the Highlanders. Further defections from the Bay are expected due to relegation, as long as they don't go to those poaching cantabs. Well done the NZRU!
 
And Hawke's Bay finish the weekend with a 36-21 win over North Harbour, coming back from being 13-0 down. Fairly entertaining game even with a lot of dropped ball.
 
Thought I missed a game, Auckland 39-11 over Otago. Apparently the "A" team were less than impressive in what amounted to a hit out.

And the ABs EOYT party has been announced, thanks planetrugby.com for the full squad. Notably Sonny Boy Williams (Canterbury) has been rushed into the squad, Hikawera Elliot (Hawke's Bay) gets a recall, and Stephen Donald (who cares) gets another chance to bollocks things. iDagg is currently under going surgery so wasn't considered. There's a few players I wouldn't have gone with and I would have tried some more up and coming fringe players, but overall strong enough side.

Forwards: John Afoa, Anthony Boric, Daniel Braid, Tom Donnelly, Hikawera Elliot, Ben Franks, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Jerome Kaino, Richie McCaw (capt), Keven Mealamu, Liam Messam, Kieran Read, Brad Thorn, Samuel Whitelock, Tony Woodcock.
Backs: Andy Ellis, Daniel Carter, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Donald, Hosea Gear, Cory Jane, Alby Mathewson, Mils Muliaina, Ma'a Nonu, Josevata Rokocoko, Sitiveni Sivivatu, Conrad Smith, Isaia Toeava, Sonny Bill Williams.
 
Ok all of todays results, and yesterdays from Welsh and English leagues:

Sunday, 17 October 2010
Heineken Cup
Biarritz 35-15 Ulster
Leicester 46-10 Scarlets
Perpignan 35-14 Benetton Treviso
Wasps 38-26 Glasgow

Amlin Challenge Cup
Leeds Carnegie 13-22 Stade Francais

British & Irish Cup
Newport 28-33 Leinster

The Championship
Bristol 32-28 Nottingham
Cornish Pirates 40-15 Rotherham Titans

Saturday, 16 October 2010
The Championship
Bedford 18-28 Worcester
Doncaster 33-14 Birmingham & Solihull
Esher 10-10 Plymouth Albion
Moseley 22-68 London Welsh

National League Division One
Barking 21-15 Coventry
Cambridge 41-11 Wharfedale
Cinderford 14-24 Launceston
Otley 25-14 Redruth
Sedgley Park 18-27 Blackheath
Stourbridge 9-17 London Scottish
Tynedale 24-33 Rosslyn Park

National League Division Two North
Harrogate 17-34 Loughborough Students
Hull 34-0 Huddersfield
Kendal 74-0 Manchester
Leicester Lions 11-5 Westoe
Luctonians 29-32 Caldy
Nuneaton 36-53 Fylde
Preston Grasshoppers 20-17 Hull Ionians
Rugby Lions 7-35 Morley

National League Division Two South
Canterbury 20-38 Worthing
Dings Crusaders 41-13 Shelford
Ealing Trailfinders 47-10 Westcombe Park
Henley 56-22 Hinckley
Lydney 27-22 Old Albanians
Richmond 25-14 Jersey
Southend 100-0 Newbury
Taunton 61-25 Clifton
Principality Building Society Premiership
Bedwas 36-27 Cross Keys
Carmarthen Quins 19-29 Pontypool
Glamorgan Wanderers 19-42 Tonmawr
Neath 28-21 Aberavon

Swalec Welsh National League Division One East
Bargoed 64-29 Llanharan
Beddau 18-28 Ebbw Vale
Bedlinog 8-28 Ystrad Rhondda
Blackwood 22-17 Gilfach Goch
Merthyr 8-39 Newbridge
Treorchy 18-19 Rumney

Swalec Welsh National League Division One West
Bonymaen 30-29 Corus (P Talbot)
Bridgend 27-8 UWIC
Felinfoel 27-28 Whitland
Llangennech 25-16 Maesteg
Narberth 42-22 Bridgend Ath
Waunarlwydd 30-18 Carmarthen Ath

Swalec Welsh National League Division One North
Bethesda 18-10 Colwyn Bay
Llangefni 14-39 Bro Ffestiniog
Mold 21-19 Llandudno
Pwllheli 19-50 Caernarfon
Ruthin 17-38 Nant Conwy
 
Welsh Squad for Nov Internationals Named:

Apparently there's not universal love among Wales supporters over a few of the selections.

Forwards: Gethin Jenkins, Paul James, Adam Jones, John Yapp, Scott Andrews, Matthew Rees, Huw Bennett, Richard Hibbard, Alun-Wyn Jones, Bradley Davies, Deiniol Jones, Ian Gough, Dan Lydiate, Jonathan Thomas, Ryan Jones, Sam Warburton, Martyn Williams, Rob McCusker.

Backs: Mike Phillips, Richie Rees, Tavis Knoyle, Stephen Jones, Dan Biggar, James Hook, Andrew Bishop, Jonathan Davies, Tom Shanklin, Shane Williams, Leigh Halfpenny, Will Harries, George North, Lee Byrne, Tom Prydie.
 
here is the weekends rugby league *shudder* results sorry i cant stand rugby legue rules confusing as hell:

Saturday, 16 October 2010
International Match
New Zealand Maori 18-18 England
 
And to the final weekend of round robin in the ITM

Northland 36 - 24 Bay of Plenty - the Taniwha were toast going into this round anyway and were heading down a division so had nothing to lose. The Bay had a chance of making the finals for the first time since 1976 or so. After a scrappy start the lead kept changing hands in a high tempo game till the Taniwha put it beyond the Bay in the final ten minutes or so. Huge upset with Northland indicating that any team in the Cup can beat any other team on the right day.
 
ill get todays results when they are all in but yesterdays are as follows (Union):

Friday, 22 October 2010
Aviva Premiership Rugby
Leeds Carnegie 3-6 Sale
Newcastle 13-15 Saracens
The Championship
Worcester 21-23 Cornish Pirates
The Magners League
Cardiff Blues 10-16 Scarlets
Edinburgh 21-16 Ulster
Munster 39-13 Benetton Treviso
 
Waikato 26-6 Canterbury, the Evil Empire hit a banana peal in the form of a Waikato outfit looking towards playing finals football next weekend. In a strange game the Evil Empire decided they couldn't win the match so went out of their way via negative rugby of ensuring Waikato didn't get the bonus point win. It's this sort of rugby that drove the NPC match attendance numbers down. While Waikato join Canterbury in the finals, the mix is still being sorted out.

Taranaki 49-47 North Harbour, the Naki popped into finals contention but wont remain there will a lucky win over Harbour. High scoring affair that had the faithful in full voice.

Manawatu 46-24 Otago, now official Otago are the wooden spoon winners for 2010 and have really been shown up this season due to not developing local talent. Nice way to sign off for Manawatu who can look forward to falling numbers, player defections, loss of advertising and all the other benefits of second division rugby. Awesome!

Wellington 27-14 Southland, the Lions stormed into the finals with an error ridden display against the faltering Stags. Wellywood didn't really deserve this based on the high error rate but were far more constructive than Southland who were limited to one off runs. There's some talent in the young Wellington backline but by heck they need a new coach. The wheels have come off for Southland who now have a nervous wait.

The final games in the ITM regular season actually will have an impact on placings, it's going down to the wire.

Auckland v Tasman - Tasman are gonzo but will no doubt want to stick it to the "A" team. If Auckland can achieve a bonus point win then they will finish the regular season on top of the table knocking the Evil Empire back to second. I don't often say this but, c'mon Auckland!

Counties v Hawke's Bay - The Bay are also gone to the dubious pleasures of second division and already have three leading players bailing, but Counties could squeeze Southland out of the top divison if they record a bonus point win. This game should really open up, the Tana factor will be huge. C'mon the Bay!
 
And to round out.

Auckland 49 - 10 Tasman. Note down the name Gareth Anscombe as the young fly half took a leading role in steering Auckland to their first semi-finals appearance since 2007. The "A" were slightly off the boil in the first quarter but gradually dominated and never looked like losing the match.

In one of those decisions that make the NZRU look amateur hour, Auckland will meet Waikato in one semi-final while Canterbury will host Wellington. Hopefully that's not the case as Auckland while on the same points as Canterbury have a clear for and against lead.

Hawke's Bay 31 - 28 Counties, in the other game on Sunday we got a ripper with the Bay stealing the game in the final minutes. The result consigns both teams to the second division next season and rugby oblivion as the NZRU continue their policy of destroying heartland kiwi rugby, look forward to a drop off in players coming through the Province ranks in future years as money dries up outside the major centers.
 
49?!? damn were Tasman blindfolded?

yesterdays rugby union results from this side of the globe:

Saturday, 23 October 2010
Aviva Premiership Rugby
Exeter 9-12 London Irish
Gloucester 33-26 Harlequins
Leicester 21-15 Bath
The Championship
London Welsh 39-14 Bristol
Plymouth Albion 3-41 Doncaster
Rotherham Titans 25-22 Esher
The Magners League
Connacht 6-18 Leinster
Newport-Gwent Dragons 36-5 Aironi Rugby
National League Division One
Blackheath 48-35 Cinderford
Blaydon 29-28 Coventry
Launceston 20-21 Cambridge
London Scottish 43-18 Sedgley Park
Otley 24-41 Barking
Redruth 27-22 Tynedale
Rosslyn Park 23-32 Stourbridge
Wharfedale 43-24 Macclesfield
National League Division Two North
Fylde 37-8 Hull
Huddersfield 27-34 Caldy
Hull Ionians 46-17 Morley
Loughborough Students 13-10 Leicester Lions
Manchester 3-32 Harrogate
Preston Grasshoppers 50-10 Luctonians
Rugby Lions 13-34 Kendal
Westoe 31-3 Nuneaton
National League Division Two South
Canterbury 10-34 Southend
Clifton 57-22 Newbury
Hinckley 0-27 Lydney
Jersey 32-18 Ealing Trailfinders
Old Albanians 26-39 Richmond
Shelford 7-13 Henley
Westcombe Park 3-45 Taunton
Worthing 27-20 Dings Crusaders
Principality Building Society Premiership
Aberavon 27-12 Swansea
Bedwas 3-28 Llanelli
Cross Keys 28-33 Tonmawr
Glamorgan Wanderers 24-10 Carmarthen Quins
Pontypool 26-26 Llandovery
Pontypridd 16-16 Cardiff
Swalec Welsh National League Division One East
Beddau 29-29 Treorchy
Ebbw Vale 48-12 Ystrad Rhondda
Gilfach Goch 29-5 Bedlinog
Llanharan 28-15 Blackwood
Newbridge 14-18 Bargoed
Rumney 20-23 Merthyr
Swalec Welsh National League Division One West
Bridgend 34-9 Waunarlwydd
Bridgend Ath 40-15 Felinfoel
Carmarthen Ath 7-6 Narberth
Maesteg 13-21 Bonymaen
UWIC 33-39 Corus (P Talbot)
Whitland 28-13 Llangennech
Swalec Welsh National League Division One North
Bro Ffestiniog 8-13 Mold
Caernarfon 26-0 Bethesda
Colwyn Bay 24-20 Llangefni
Llandudno 13-12 Nant Conwy
Pwllheli 19-39 Ruthin
Scottish Premiership Division One
Ayr 43-19 Stirling County
Glasgow Hawks 92-0 Selkirk
Hawick 11-9 Currie
Heriots Rugby Club 24-20 Boroughmuir
Melrose 45-19 Watsonians
Scottish Premiership Division Two
Aberdeen GSFP 39-23 Jed-Forest
Biggar 26-17 Kelso
Falkirk 25-31 Edinburgh Acads
GHA 39-21 Peebles
Gala 36-14 Kirkcaldy
Stewarts Melville FP 16-41 Hillhead/Jordanhill
Scottish Premiership Division Three
Ardrossan Acads 13-31 Whitecraigs
Dalziel 15-17 Haddington
Dunfermline 25-24 Cartha Q P
Hamilton 30-6 Dumfries
Howe of Fife 33-17 Perthshire
Musselburgh 29-30 Morgan Academy FP
A I B League Division One
Blackrock College 20-29 Old Belvedere
Clontarf 25-15 Buccaneers
Cork Constitution 32-19 Young Munster
Galwegians 25-26 Dungannon
Garryowen 45-27 Dolphin
St Mary's College 53-0 Shannon
UCC 13-15 Bruff
UL Bohemians 19-9 Lansdowne
 
And in the first of the ITM semi finals the Evil Empire won 57 - 41 over a plucky Wellington. A total of ten tries were scored and only one goal attempt was missed as both teams threw caution to the wind and turned on a demonstration of why Rugby is the best sport in the known universe.

Further news Rear Gunner Wilco is out of the English side with injury through November, that might give someone with something approaching flair an opportunity.

Dead Bled 2 sees the mighty All Blacks facing the Criminal Element in Asian, *yawn* the fourth time the sides have meet in 2010 with nothing on the match. Apparently the crowds think the same with a low volume of tickets being moved prior to the game. Surprisingly the Agencies all have the Wooblies winning the match, yet again, but to be honest I can't see the likes of Gits (past his use by date) getting through the Blackness defense. Late news Sivi is out with an injury, no news on a replacement with iDagg also recovering. Fingers crossed they notch Zac in this evening.

For Aussies, Channel 7 are going live with the match from 7.30pm (EAST), apology up front for the appallingly bad commentary from that channel.

And finally the Pools for the Dubai 7s have been announced (thanks to PR for the listing):

Pool A: Samoa, Kenya, Wales, Arabian Gulf
Pool B: New Zealand, Argentina, USA, Zimbabwe
Pool C: Australia, South Africa, Scotland, Russia
Pool D: Fiji, England, France, Portugal
 
Oh here's a stat I wasn't aware of. The two leading point scorers in the history of the game are Wilco on 1178 followed by Dan "the man" Carter on 1118. With Wilco out for November Carter could pass him by the end of that month.
 
Oh and in case any Aussies need the pass results of the last ten matches between the Countries

Wooblies L L L L L L L L L L

All Blacks W W W W W W W W W W
 
And congrats to Australia, 27-25 (I think, I started drinking heavily when Donald came on), winners in Honkers. Memo to AB selectors, Donald ... just say no!!!!! Dude cost us a test match .... still good wake up call for the Black, and well won by the Aussies.

Don't get me started on the Ref and the Scrums ... the Aussies got the worse of it there ... Pocock cheats more than the Kiwi 7 btw ...
 
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