Martok
Well-known member
Uninstall it like any other add-on.
Tapatalk Forum App for xenForo - iOS / Android / Windows Phone Mobile App [Deleted]
- Thread starter tapatalk
- Start date
AppleAndMango
Active member
Whoops, typo. Meant to ask "who" It's very cold here, makes typing hard.
I saw your response in the other thread, thanks.
Martok
Well-known member
Tapatalk explain here why they removed it from here.
https://xenforo.com/community/threa...-mobile-app-deleted.27837/page-54#post-977439
I think they prefer posts to be made on their site. Here they have no control over what is said. On their site they can lock and delete threads that they disagree with.
Mouth
Well-known member
Agreed. I think the "[Deleted]" suffix on the end of this thread title is representative of what people should do with the add-on.
Amin Sabet
Well-known member
Uninstalling the addon should be enough, but I deleted the mobiquo folder (in forum root) as well as the Tapatalk folder (in library) as well after first uninstalling the addon.
Amin Sabet
Well-known member
See the Terms of Service for this forum: https://xenforo.com/community/help/terms
Same statement is found in the default TOS for ever forum that uses XenForo software.
IMO, the difference with Tapatalk is that they have proven that they change the TOS in undesirable ways such as giving themselves permission to email everyone in the database under specific conditions.
Mr Lucky
Well-known member
I didn't know that.
however it cannot be legally binding.
You tick the box to accept the terms as they are when you tick it. presumably when you download an upgrade you are accepting the new terms because you tick the box.
But legally, the only contract/licence that exists is the one in place when you last ticked the box agreeing.
The problem with the internet is trying to prove what was in lace when you ticked that box, so if you are bothered take screenshot and file it away.
Amin Sabet
Well-known member
I'll leave it up to the courts to decide what is legal. But such terms are certainly prevalent. See for example Yahoo's: https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/terms/utos/index.htm
Facebook has a different approach, which I'm guessing comes from bad press with previous changes in their TOS:
But still there is nothing about ticking a box to accept new terms.
Would be interesting to look at the case law regarding such TOS changes.
AppleAndMango
Active member
Just logged in through the "site owners" portal and I noticed the add-on was out of date and a newer version was available but there's nothing telling you what's "new" or what's "fixed" in the new version. Okay fair enough on here there's a log of what's new each time there's an update but this is on their actual site why would I need to go searching for what's new in the updated version of the add-on I've checked in the download contents too nothing.
I've read enough horror stories in this thread, removed the add-on this morning.
I've read enough horror stories in this thread, removed the add-on this morning.
Mouth
Well-known member
Funny how the change-log says "Removal of email engagement functions." (read: extracting all your sites user's email addresses, regardless of whether they use Tapatalk or not, and spamming them!) but nothing at all within the change-log about how and when they added that functionality in the first place. There's a change-log to be trusted.
Floyd R Turbo
Well-known member
I think there is something that is worth pointing out, it was a subtle change that I noticed a few months back and it got me thinking about a few things.
Default XF function is that when you get an alert for a thread via email, you don't get any more for any replies until you visit that specific thread again. This is actually different from VB and a few others, that reset this value apparently for every thread you are "watching" or "subscribed" to whenever you visit the forum again (any thread/page/etc). What that means for these other forums is that if you are subscribed to 20 threads and then you get 8 alerts, and you click one of them and read one post on one of those threads, you'll get new alerts for additional new replies to the other 7 threads you didn't view (the alert is reset). What it means for XF is that if you get 8 alerts and you look at one thread, the other 7 are still unviewed and subsequent replies to those threads will not generate an alert - you have to look at each thread. I think this is a source of what I've seen some people mention as an initial downturn in traffic after a switch to XF.
Now over to Tapatalk. What they have done is completely disconnected the alert strategy of any forum they are used on. You will get alert after alert regardless of whether you have visited the forum or not, based solely on whether or not you are subscribed to the thread. This means if a thread is hot, and getting a ton of responses, you'll know it because of the push notifications. You might get 30 pushes on a single thread but only one email.
Double edged sword to some, you might not like getting so many notifications. But to me this move made Tapatalk hard to get rid of for me. I like knowing what is going on related to the threads I am watching, and if a thread is hot and popping up notifications, it grabs my attention. I go to the mobile browser to view the thread (on XF forums at least) so in those cases I only use TT for the push notices (in fact, I rarely actually use the app at all beyond the push notices).
Its the upside of TT that keeps me from removing it. Because otherwise my customizations are wiped out. If they implemented direct-to-web-view, that would make this app the @#$%.
Default XF function is that when you get an alert for a thread via email, you don't get any more for any replies until you visit that specific thread again. This is actually different from VB and a few others, that reset this value apparently for every thread you are "watching" or "subscribed" to whenever you visit the forum again (any thread/page/etc). What that means for these other forums is that if you are subscribed to 20 threads and then you get 8 alerts, and you click one of them and read one post on one of those threads, you'll get new alerts for additional new replies to the other 7 threads you didn't view (the alert is reset). What it means for XF is that if you get 8 alerts and you look at one thread, the other 7 are still unviewed and subsequent replies to those threads will not generate an alert - you have to look at each thread. I think this is a source of what I've seen some people mention as an initial downturn in traffic after a switch to XF.
Now over to Tapatalk. What they have done is completely disconnected the alert strategy of any forum they are used on. You will get alert after alert regardless of whether you have visited the forum or not, based solely on whether or not you are subscribed to the thread. This means if a thread is hot, and getting a ton of responses, you'll know it because of the push notifications. You might get 30 pushes on a single thread but only one email.
Double edged sword to some, you might not like getting so many notifications. But to me this move made Tapatalk hard to get rid of for me. I like knowing what is going on related to the threads I am watching, and if a thread is hot and popping up notifications, it grabs my attention. I go to the mobile browser to view the thread (on XF forums at least) so in those cases I only use TT for the push notices (in fact, I rarely actually use the app at all beyond the push notices).
Its the upside of TT that keeps me from removing it. Because otherwise my customizations are wiped out. If they implemented direct-to-web-view, that would make this app the @#$%.
tommydamic68
Well-known member
Has anyone noticed recently the the the "Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk" is showing up again on their forums and I don't see the option to turn if off in the ACP anymore. Anyone else? I had that sig popping up all over my forum.
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Floyd R Turbo
Well-known member
Their latest update forces non-paying forum admins to get the signature. To remove the signature, you have to pay $10/month. This ones gonna backfire on them, big time.
Amin Sabet
Well-known member
They should know by now that this kind of behavior is going to backfire on them!
Floyd R Turbo
Well-known member
email from 10/15
Serve Your Ads through DFP (and work around the ad-blocking apps)
During the summer, we have been gathering feedback from Site Owners and monitoring comments about ways to improve Tapatalk. And based on the feedback, we have been busy working on a number of improvements. We are excited to share some the first of a few new features with you.
(Some of you may have received an earlier version of this newsletter a couple of weeks ago. This is an updated version)
Introducing the ability to serve your ads through DFP on Tapatalk
I’m sure many of you have followed the news of Apple, with the release of iOS 9, allowing Ad-Blocking apps. The apps are blocking ads on mobile web sites, but not in apps. Here is a recent write-up in MacWorld. Ad blockers on mobile sites could have a big impact on many sites revenue generation.
The good news Tapatalk provides a couple of monetization options. Just about two years ago, Tapatalk introduced advertising so that Site Owners could monetize impressions of their content viewed on Tapatalk. In that time, we have been increasing CPM, and earlier this year introduced Native Ads format.
We also have been hearing from some site owners that they wanted more control over advertising in Tapatalk.
Good news! Starting this week, you can now insert your own DFP tags and have your ads served when users view your content on Tapatalk. We are going to support serving either 300X250 or 320X50 ad units. Initially, DFP ads will only be available for forums, and in the near future, also include blogs and RSS feeds in Tapatalk.
Serving ads through DFP is available to all sites and there is no costs from Tapatalk in serving the ads. (Doubleclick ad serving fees may apply)
For me details, see this Knowledge Base article.
Introducing additional control options
Since its introduction, Tapatalk has always been free to Site Owners. The app became free for end users about two years ago. Our business model is simple: we plan to eventually make money by taking a small percentage of the advertising revenue from impressions on Tapatalk. (Today the percentage is negligible to negative. In other words, we are paying site owners more in ad revenue than we are receiving).
We have absolutely no plans to change our free offering to Site Owners or to app users. However, we received feedback from Site Owners asking for an option to pay a small fee to receive more controls / options. Based on the feedback, we are going to add an optional paid tier.
We have an optional paid tier for Site Owners that provides an option to remove Tapatalk branding including Smart App Banner and to turning off Tapatalk signature. For existing Tapatalk sites, we are looking to rely on the honor system rather than Tapatalk enforcing purchase of the Premium tier.
Serve Your Ads through DFP (and work around the ad-blocking apps)
During the summer, we have been gathering feedback from Site Owners and monitoring comments about ways to improve Tapatalk. And based on the feedback, we have been busy working on a number of improvements. We are excited to share some the first of a few new features with you.
(Some of you may have received an earlier version of this newsletter a couple of weeks ago. This is an updated version)
Introducing the ability to serve your ads through DFP on Tapatalk
I’m sure many of you have followed the news of Apple, with the release of iOS 9, allowing Ad-Blocking apps. The apps are blocking ads on mobile web sites, but not in apps. Here is a recent write-up in MacWorld. Ad blockers on mobile sites could have a big impact on many sites revenue generation.
The good news Tapatalk provides a couple of monetization options. Just about two years ago, Tapatalk introduced advertising so that Site Owners could monetize impressions of their content viewed on Tapatalk. In that time, we have been increasing CPM, and earlier this year introduced Native Ads format.
We also have been hearing from some site owners that they wanted more control over advertising in Tapatalk.
Good news! Starting this week, you can now insert your own DFP tags and have your ads served when users view your content on Tapatalk. We are going to support serving either 300X250 or 320X50 ad units. Initially, DFP ads will only be available for forums, and in the near future, also include blogs and RSS feeds in Tapatalk.
Serving ads through DFP is available to all sites and there is no costs from Tapatalk in serving the ads. (Doubleclick ad serving fees may apply)
For me details, see this Knowledge Base article.
Introducing additional control options
Since its introduction, Tapatalk has always been free to Site Owners. The app became free for end users about two years ago. Our business model is simple: we plan to eventually make money by taking a small percentage of the advertising revenue from impressions on Tapatalk. (Today the percentage is negligible to negative. In other words, we are paying site owners more in ad revenue than we are receiving).
We have absolutely no plans to change our free offering to Site Owners or to app users. However, we received feedback from Site Owners asking for an option to pay a small fee to receive more controls / options. Based on the feedback, we are going to add an optional paid tier.
We have an optional paid tier for Site Owners that provides an option to remove Tapatalk branding including Smart App Banner and to turning off Tapatalk signature. For existing Tapatalk sites, we are looking to rely on the honor system rather than Tapatalk enforcing purchase of the Premium tier.
Amin Sabet
Well-known member
Amin Sabet
Well-known member
This is really unbelievable.
I think we're going to see massive numbers of forum owners uninstalling Tapatalk!
