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[Suggestion] Time limit on IP bans

Discussion in 'XenForo Suggestions' started by James, Sep 6, 2010.

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  1. James

    James Well-Known Member

    If XF offers an IP ban option, can we have the ability to have it for a set period of time?

    IPs are regularly changed for users and I don't like to indefinitely ban IP addresses. I generally ban them for a period of time and then moderate any posts made by that IP address to check if the user is still using that IP or if it is actually a new user who I could be blocking access to my forums.

    Perhaps offer an option to move banned IP addresses to a moderation area so that we can moderate them and make a decision after a few days.

    Like this post if you agree :)
     
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  2. Enigma

    Enigma Well-Known Member

    Yes, I've thought for awhile that expiring IP bans would be useful.
     
  3. Brandon_R

    Brandon_R Guest

    Full out system.
     
  4. Darfuria

    Darfuria Active Member

  5. Onimua

    Onimua Well-Known Member

    Interesting article. I like the post here: http://css-tricks.com/how-long-should-we-ban-ips/#comment-82703

    It would be awesome if it could turn it into "smart" IP banning, rather then us manually defining a time for the IP ban (although it would still be an option to do so). That way if you re-ban an IP because of abuse right away, the system would automatically add time to the default ban time so you don't need to keep track whether or not you just removed a certain IP or not.
     
  6. Kier

    Kier XenForo Developer Staff Member

    I rather like the idea of this.
     
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  7. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

    I never thought IP Bans were particularly effective anyway since most users can just change their IP. :)
     
  8. Hornstar

    Hornstar Well-Known Member

    They are not always effective, but I like the idea of making anything that little bit harder for the spammer/trolls. Eventually they will give up or go else where (well that is the plan lol) So I like the idea of this too, as usually only a few days would be enough for an IP ban.
     
  9. James

    James Well-Known Member

    Chris Coyier's article covers it well. It also covers my suggestion about moving the IPs to a moderation to monitor the users:
    P.S: Like the first post if you agree.
     
  10. Kim

    Kim Well-Known Member

    Very good idea, I ran into this issue just recently, I had years ago banned some Italian IP's due to a cracker.. and a potential customer and all round nice guy got caught in that net, luckily I knew him on IM and he could let me know about the ban (which of course I had totally forgotten about)

    :)
     
  11. James

    James Well-Known Member

    That is a pretty awesome coincidence. You ban an italian IP and out of the 6 billion people in the world it was a guy you know on IM :p
     
  12. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I never use IP banning for the simple reason that you may inadvertently be banning other innocent users.

    If a spammer is determined, they will find a way around the IP ban very easily - new IP address from ISP, proxy, etc.
     
  13. Kim

    Kim Well-Known Member


    LOL no I had banned a range.. as it happens one of the largest in Italy :p
     
  14. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    QED ;)
     
  15. Sami

    Sami Well-Known Member

    Expiring IP ban would be useful to block bursts of spam. Maybe the expiration time could be provided in error message, which real people can (and will) read.
     
  16. Onimua

    Onimua Well-Known Member

    That would defeat the purpose. You'd be telling the abuser: It's not going to work right now, but if you wait until 6 hours from now, you can try again. In some cases that would just provoke them to do something a little more extreme when the ban is up.
     
  17. Sami

    Sami Well-Known Member

    True I guess. I forgot about human EVIL!!-doers since we have never had the sort of people who don't need to know how long their bans are. :D
     
  18. DSF

    DSF Well-Known Member

    Since many years in my vB can Mod/Adm enter a IP with a simple plug-in.
    This IP was written with unix-timestamp(as comment) direct into the .htaccess.
    The forbidden error-site therefore is custom designed.
    Any 24h run's a cronjob and remove old IP's

    Simple and easy for us. :)
     
  19. 0ptima

    0ptima Well-Known Member

    Expiring banned IPs is good, but I would like to keep a history of them,
     

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