Back when AVForums was a small forum, I distinctly remember visiting our American cousin AVSForum and being utterly intimidated by the sheer number of forums on the forum list. WHOA! A huge long list of forums and subforums. It was overwhelming. Now I know xenForo presents forums in a clearer, more friendly way than vB, but I still want to give new visitors a more friendly, easier to navigate presentation of the forums, AND give regulars the option of reverting to the standard view. We paid for a modification to the style of the forum list on AVForums to, by default, show people a concise version of the forum list: I think this is much more user friendly when you have a huge list of forums. At the top is a link to change to the Expanded View. This is a cookie based setting. Our expanded forum view is basically the same as all other vBulletin forums: except it offers the choice to switch the the Concise View at the top. You can have a play with this setting yourself at www.AVForums.com/forums/ The problem with our solution is that the Concise View performs the same, mostly unnecessary database queries as the expanded view. A proper concise view of the forum list, making only the necessary queries and shown by default would be less scary for new visitors, and much more efficient while showing Google all the information it needs and less information it doesn't need (last poster stuff etc.) If you agree this is a useful option, please Like this post. Thank you.